Barak the Magic Negro - Page 2

Raharu Haruha · #11 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by p-did

While 15 percent of Americans can't afford health care, you're worried about going to the moon?

This is why we need Obama: he cares more about his homeland than he does about the moon.

And please explain to me this: what exactly does McCain know about military tactics that Obama does not? You honestly believe that being shot down by enemy force and being a POW for five years makes you strong on tactics? Or does supporting Bush's failed policies make him strong on policy?

If you're going to claim McCain knows something Obama does not, be specific. I'm an independant voter his is open to both the democrats and the GOP.

But what exactly does 70 year old McCain bring to the table that Obama could not replicate or do much better? Obama has energy and drive, and he's a quick study (unlike McCain, he earned his Senate seat through hard work). Obama had to fight harder for everything he has, because people discriminated against him because of his name and race.

So please, name one thing that McCain can do, that Obama could not.

Also explain how a trip to the moon will benefit any of us. What usable resources are on the moon?

And who do you want as your leader: Grandpa without the energy to perform, or a charismatic and energetic leader who will can put in the 60+ hours a week necessary to perform at the highest level?

If you look at the candidates with an open mind, and throw out the partisan politics, Obama just has so much more to offer us.

And BTW: I have about 150k invested in Exxon, and it keeps going up! I too, love being invested in oil. Makes me feel better when I fill up my car.

you're honestly implying that a man who went to war, was a prisoner of war, and then went back into the military afterwards would know less about war than a man who grew up in hawaii, went to school at harvard for journalism and has never considered going to war himself? do you even know how bad barak is at chess?

rodrigu3 · #12 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 06:01 PM

Since when does a president formulate military strategy? You know Kerry served in Vietnam too, didn't that make him a better military strategist than Bush? Your argument is flawed.

ABoyNamedSue · #13 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rodrigu3

Since when does a president formulate military strategy? You know Kerry served in Vietnam too, didn't that make him a better military strategist than Bush? Your argument is flawed.

I wouldn't necessarily say Kerry "served" in Vietnam. He was there, but I don't think he served much. Unless you consider it self-serving.

rodrigu3 · #14 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 09:13 PM

I read McCain's and Kerry's Wiki - Kerry did seem to have done things in Vietnam, not on the same level as McCain, but certainly more than Bush. The swift boat controversy just seems too strange, considering their close ties to the Bush administration.

p-did · #15 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Raharu Haruha

you're honestly implying that a man who went to war, was a prisoner of war, and then went back into the military afterwards would know less about war than a man who grew up in hawaii, went to school at harvard for journalism and has never considered going to war himself? do you even know how bad barak is at chess?

You dogded my question. I'll ask again:

Can you name one thing that McCain knows about modern day military strategy that Obama does not? And can you name one military operation that has McCain planned? Can you name one pentagon expert that McCain will have access to, that Obama will not?

Another question: do you know that it's the same military planners that work for both GOP and democrat presidents? Generals and pentagon officials are not hired and fired by the White House, so neither Obama nor McCain will be dictating any of the tactics on the ground. Therefore, your point is moot.

And if you truly believe serving as a soldier many years ago makes you a strong planner for today's wars, then you must have voted for Kerry over Bush. Right? If you didn't, that would make you a hypocrite.

Most importantly, Obama is a much better communicator than the other candidates (you'd have to be deaf to deny that much), which means that we likely won't need to go to war as often, as Obama has the skills to solve problems using political means. Peace is always better than war. Can we agree on that much?

p-did · #16 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyBob

The song parody [written and performed by Paul Shanklin] heard on the great Rush Limbaugh show is based on an LA Times article:

Obama the 'Magic Negro'

Why do people listen to a man who makes a living off spewing hate and ignorance. This is 2008; can we move past this obsolete and pathetic style of thought, and move into an age where we no longer attack people based on their race?

It was funny how Rush's racist side came out so fast at ESPN; they had to pull the plug on that bigot before he finished one season.

I look forward to the day when we all can see through the fear mongering, hate, and ignorance this predictable man uses to make a dollar off the undereducated masses.

The12thMan · #17 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by p-did

And please explain to me this: what exactly does McCain know about military tactics that Obama does not? You honestly believe that being shot down by enemy force and being a POW for five years makes you strong on tactics? Or does supporting Bush's failed policies make him strong on policy?

I hate to burst your talking point bubble, but McCain was one of the first to criticize Bush's Iraq policies. He knew from the get-go that more troops were needed. He was right. Repeatedly saying that he supported Bush's failed policies will not make it true.
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...But what exactly does 70 year old McCain bring to the table that Obama could not replicate or do much better? Obama has energy and drive, and he's a quick study (unlike McCain, he earned his Senate seat through hard work). Obama had to fight harder for everything he has, because people discriminated against him because of his name and race.

Oh yeah, go with that argument. Barack had a terribly difficult life and McCain had it easy. Barack overcame racism to win his Senate seat against another black man.

McCain was accused of carpetbagging when he ran for the Senate in Arizona. Here was his reply:

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Listen, pal. I spent 22 years in the Navy. My father was in the Navy. My grandfather was in the Navy. We in the military service tend to move a lot. We have to live in all parts of the country, all parts of the world. I wish I could have had the luxury, like you, of growing up and living and spending my entire life in a nice place like the First District of Arizona, but I was doing other things. As a matter of fact, when I think about it now, the place I lived longest in my life was Hanoi.

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.....If you look at the candidates with an open mind, and throw out the partisan politics, Obama just has so much more to offer us....

Free stuff? Is that what you're voting for? Who will give you more?

p-did · #18 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 12:00 AM

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Free stuff? Is that what you're voting for? Who will give you more?

Free stuff? What are you talking about? No president gives away plasmas. But Obama will provide us with leadership that McCain and Hillary simply don't possess. Listen to all three candidates speak (with an open mind), and it's obvious that Obama is the only man who has the communication skills needed to be an effective head of state.

All three candidates are social liberals with generally moderate views. So leadership skills should be the tie-breaker the way I see it.

I wouldn't mind if McCain won, since he has a history of reaching across the aisle to create positive change. But considering that all three candidates are generally equal (all moderates who are willing to work with the other party, with Hillary being the most polarizing of the three), Obama will perform better, since the primary function of a U.S. President is to communicate with other leaders and bring together the nation.

The12thMan · #19 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by p-did

Free stuff? What are you talking about? No president gives away plasmas. But Obama will provide us with leadership that McCain and Hillary simply don't possess. Listen to all three candidates speak (with an open mind), and it's obvious that Obama is the only man who has the communication skills needed to be an effective head of state.

Listen again. Listen to him when he's not speaking from a prepared speech. He's uh...not nearly as uh... impressive as most people uh... believe.

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All three candidates are social liberals with generally moderate views. So leadership skills should be the tie-breaker the way I see it.

How do you figure McCain as a social liberal?

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I wouldn't mind if McCain won, since he has a history of reaching across the aisle to create positive change. But considering that all three candidates are generally equal (all moderates who are willing to work with the other party, with Hillary being the most polarizing of the three), Obama will perform better, since the primary function of a U.S. President is to communicate with other leaders and bring together the nation.

Can you give me a single instance of Barack working with the other party? If that's asking too much, perhaps you can find an instance where Barack broke ranks and voted with the republicans. The only thing I can find happened today when he was forced to vote with McCain for the earmark moratorium (that'll fool a few people).

Blade · #20 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by p-did

Rush makes a living off spreading hate and ignorance. It's exactly what is tearing apart our otherwise great nation.

Rush never said a single racist thing in his life. You are a typical liberal - you have no arguments so you resort to slander.

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Obama has nothing but positive and constructive ideas; so why are people so desperate to attack him? He's one of the few good politicians left in our system, who will fight for the working class citizen.

He has NO ideas, his ideas are exactly the standard liberal statist ideas - there is absolutely nothing new.

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Why is bringing the nation together, and fighting for equality, such a bad thing.

How many times do you have to be told before it'll sink in? He is a radical leftwing politician, he isn't going to "unite" anyone.

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