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Old 03-14-2008, 06:41 PM
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Wright off Obama's Campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...ter/index.html

Looks like Obama is taking steps to separate himself from his pastor. Good to see.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:42 PM
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Title: humourous. Content: Unfortunate.

Censorship imo, he can speak, but we're not to listen or think about what he says.
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:45 PM
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How exactly is it censorship? His sermons will still be accessible on the church's website.
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..and Wrights hand picked successor who was inspired/mentored by Wright Rev. Otis Moss III ...remains.

He's the one you see slap Wright on the back during one of these things..ill find the clip and put it here.

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"Rev. Michael D. Jacobs" "Rev. Otis Moss III"

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Sure but few will be encouraged to/will actually read it- you'll also be actively discouraged to make up your own mind about it, and the quality most people actually get of it will be obsfurcated and limited. Censorship has to get more subtle after all.

I hope Obama isn't lying here, but sure does look like an unfortunate nod to old-style politics tactics. Even more unfortunetly, it may be indeed necassary to do such a thing.

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Old 03-14-2008, 07:01 PM
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..and Wrights hand picked successor who was inspired/mentored by Wright Rev. Otis Moss III ...remains.
Perhaps, but Obama does not refer to him as a mentor or spiritual adviser.
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Default Historically inaccurate ranting as well.

OH and a quibble/hell a discrediting of Wright in that video in regards to the Romans all being whiter Italians whites...
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After a brief period of civil war, the African general Septimius Severus established his control. He established a family dynasty. The Severi varied in quality, some good, some bad. Increasingly the Severi lost control of the army and each was assassinated by mutinous army troops.

AD 193 Septimius Severus
AD 211 Caracalla and Geta
AD 212 Caracalla (alone)
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He rebuilt and restored Hadrian's Wall and gave Britain a century of peace; throughout his life he never lost his taste for African cooking. When he first entered Britannia, he was welcomed and hailed as the deliverer from the Gauls and Germans who continually pillaged and ravaged the island.

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Nice speech. I'd pat him on the back too- seems like alot of people would in that congregation- got to say I like people that tell the truth, especially when its an ugly one.

Wrong about Jesus being black though, I mean he was jewish so its the same themes, just never got why the focus on him being black...actually that makes it more of a focus...interesting.
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Wright off Obama's Campaign.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...ter/index.html

Looks like Obama is taking steps to separate himself from his pastor. Good to see.
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Obama has separated himself from Wright. He was on Anderson Cooper 360 tonight and mentioned that it's ironic that in his book Audacity of Hope, which was inspired by one of Wright's sermons, he talks at the end about how he loves this country and how this country is everything to him. Obama's sentiments and those of Wright are diametrically opposed and it seems to difficult to me to reconcile the two. Moreover, Obama stated that he was not aware his pastor had said these things until his presidential campaign began and he felt that it would be sufficient to repudiate those remarks as he had done. He claims to not have been at these sermons and that Wright never spoke this way while he watched him nor in private conversations. When you think about it, 2 sermons out of 20 years of sermons - it seems unlikely that Obama heard all of them.
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