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Old 03-18-2008, 06:10 AM
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So why are there white supremists and white racists in this country? Or is it human sociology that racial groups will always be in conflict between the majority and the minority. Do you think that minority groups should not be involved in the political process.


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If any of you have taken a sociology class, you would find a strong evidence of minorities being more racist than the majority. It's a social-psychological thing. Timidity creates fear. Fear foments hate. Hate develops into violence and clouds your thinking to some very important decisions.
With the preaching I heard....Obama has been nurtured with these remarks. There is no doubt it.

Hence, he's misfit for the president. He should resign before Pennsylvania.

Nevertheless, Race, Age, Gender should not be an issue when a candidate is running for the president.
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:32 AM
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Obama is Not of Slave Descent and has no idea of what is the psyche of our born nor unborn. The only objectionable statements by Wright were:

1. God xxxx(should have been Heal) America

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2. The US involvement in Acquired Immune Def. Syndrom

Now if you want a dose of truth... it was TERROR by our beloved government to have given a Tribe of Native Americans Blankets Filled with Small-Pox to kill off an entire culture. (that's history, U.S. Army did that one)

More? It was Terror to drop that second bomb at the end of WWII (those were not military installations as was Pearl Harbor.

More? It was economic Terror to have let Rockafeller(sp) rape and plunder Brazil.

More? It was terror to hang any American of African Slave origins for drinking out of the white man's water fountain.

More Recent? It is terror to take down a dictator that Dick Cheney put in (oh, yeah, Sa(*)(*)(*)(*) Husein was hand-picked by that crew that took him down)

Read, just read the history of our Nation and wonder if Wright is really just like Jeremiah, lammenting for the sins of his nation....

Obamma is to me, "Just another uncle-tom",
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:50 AM
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Ok if you started this thread to harp on Obama on this issue fine enough.

However if you actually think he is "done" than you don't "get" Obama.

He has a short record and people are used to just believing whatever he says is what he feels and is what he's always felt.

After this broke he made a statement where he describes Wright's comments as "the inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents." He goes on to say that he "vehemently disagrees[s with] and strongly condemn[s] the statements that have been the subject of this controversy." and "I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies."

So there you go. This issue will have a negligable affect on the nomination.

It may matter in the general election, but I wouldn't count on it.
You cite him correctly, but what was missing was his renouncing his own incendiary remarks. Past speeches show that not only did he sit under Wright's racist rants, he agreed with them. His wife's bigotry stands out in her own declarations, and you think they could stay married and not share some common ground? I agree, it won't affect the outcome of the primary season. Obamaninacs will follow him over the cliff and his opponents will not be persuaded to love him, but that is because we, as a people, generally are "dumb and dumber" when it comes to those we elect.
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So why are there white supremists and white racists in this country? Or is it human sociology that racial groups will always be in conflict between the majority and the minority. Do you think that minority groups should n ot be involved in the political preocess.
You just ignored my last sentence.

It's not about race. It's about an individual who happens to listen to racist speeches . )
How would you react if one would say Barack is the most popular name in Turkey and a lot of Arabic countries?

White supremacists are a joke. They don't influence the politics of America unless you agree with Obama's pastor sermon.
A leader with controversial background will bring back other racist groups in the scene and what will happen to America?

Hence, Obama is misfit for president!
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According to your sociology class, is Racism by minorities a Choice?

Is it human nature to always find things to complain about - if you are in the white majority, you complain about how minorities are ruining the country; if you are in the Black minority you complain how Whites are keeping you down.

Is White Racism and Black Racism just a function of human nature struggling in a multi-ethnic America?

Is White America fearful of Race riots from just 10% of the population. I honestly don't believe that Law and Order will be forgotten if Obama is elected president. I just think its fear-mongering on baseless delusions. I think there is unjustified fear that the slaveholder will be killed by the slaves, but this is 2008 and we are past the animosity of slavery. There will be no violent uprising.

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You just ignored my last sentence.

It's not about race. It's about an individual who happens to listen to racist speeches . )
How would you react if one would say Barack is the most popular name in Turkey and a lot of Arabic countries?

White supremacists are a joke. They don't influence the politics of America unless you agree with Obama's pastor sermon.
A leader with controversial background will bring back other racist groups in the scene and what will happen to America?

Hence, Obama is misfit for president!
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Is White America fearful of Race riots
'Fearful', no.


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from just 10% of the population.
I think it's closer to 13% or 15%

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I honestly don't believe that Law and Order will be forgotten if Obama is elected president.
of course not, white people are known for rioting and looting when they don't get their way.


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I just think its fear-mongering on baseless delusions. I think there is unjustified fear that the slaveholder will be killed by the slaves, but this is 2008 and we are past the animosity of slavery. There will be no violent uprising.
Blacks will likely riot in some cities if the DNC chooses Hillary over Obama.

I can't wait!!!!!!
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I agree 100 % . Obama can spare me his speech = "just words" today ! We White folk are a bit more educated then he may want to give us credit for apparently . Obama sat in those pews for 20 years and wants us to believe that he does not agree with his good<--sarcasm preachers views ? Spare me please ! I knew right from the start about this "transparent cretin" =Obama . I am a 40 year white folk (lol) man and i know now that the white male folks that Obama may have had fooled are no longer fooled. I mean c'mon, if you're pastor was spewing this garbage for over the 20 years that u sat in the pews ,you would continue to keep going to this church ? I mean this is beyond stupidity and he is an imbecile for even trying to assume that we would believe the garbage that fell from his mouth today almost as bad as the defecation that fell from his pastors mouth.After being a part of the church for 20 years "the APPLE DOES NOT FALL FROM THE TREE" ! We white male folk have noticed Obama getting over 90 % of the black vote in the last few primarys ..someone that is black please tell me what that is all about? That is nothing short of racist votes ! But none to worry, us white male folk have notuced that % of blacks voting for Obama and now it is our turn to be a racist voter ! Pity really !
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As a White person, can you tell me you don't know anyone in your extended family, friends, co-workers who says racist things. I can think of a few friends who are known to have negative opinions of Blacks and generally dislikes Blacks. Now these guys really have no reason or experiences to justify their opinions, much of it can be attributed to their fathers.

Most of the black guys I know are tough dudes. I think its more common than not that a black dude acts like an angry black male in certain situations. Its just like a lot of white guys become the Angry White Male.

I trust Obama when he says he will govern for all Americans. I don't think a pro-Black agenda is even possible. Remember he was raised by his white mother and white grandparents. Is he going to re-distribute wealth from the white elites and give out reparations to slave descendents, i don't think so.

I don't think there will ever be a clean-issue-free Black male or woman that would ever appease the Angry White male voter.

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I agree 100 % . Obama can spare me his speech = "just words" today ! We White folk are a bit more educated then he may want to give us credit for apparently . Obama sat in those pews for 20 years and wants us to believe that he does not agree with his good<--sarcasm preachers views ? Spare me please ! I knew right from the start about this "transparent cretin" =Obama . I am a 40 year white folk (lol) man and i know now that the white male folks that Obama may have had fooled are no longer fooled. I mean c'mon, if you're pastor was spewing this garbage for over the 20 years that u sat in the pews ,you would continue to keep going to this church ? I mean this is beyond stupidity and he is an imbecile for even trying to assume that we would believe the garbage that fell from his mouth today almost as bad as the defecation that fell from his pastors mouth.After being a part of the church for 20 years "the APPLE DOES NOT FALL FROM THE TREE" ! We white male folk have noticed Obama getting over 90 % of the black vote in the last few primarys ..someone that is black please tell me what that is all about? That is nothing short of racist votes ! But none to worry, us white male folk have notuced that % of blacks voting for Obama and now it is our turn to be a racist voter ! Pity really !
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As a White person, can you tell me you don't know anyone in your extended family, friends, co-workers who says racist things. I can think of a few friends who are known to have negative opinions of Blacks and generally dislikes Blacks. Now these guys really have no reason or experiences to justify their opinions, much of it can be attributed to their fathers

Are they your mentors of over 20 years that shape your religious life?

No



Considering the people who supprot Obama tend to be those who associate single handshakes with global positons over 30+ years ..this "it doesn't matter that he's been mentored by this guy for 20 years" is fallacious at best and poltically calculated BS at worst.
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As a White person, can you tell me you don't know anyone in your extended family, friends, co-workers who says racist things. I can think of a few friends who are known to have negative opinions of Blacks and generally dislikes Blacks. Now these guys really have no reason or experiences to justify their opinions, much of it can be attributed to their fathers.

Most of the black guys I know are tough dudes. I think its more common than not that a black dude acts like an angry black male in certain situations. Its just like a lot of white guys become the Angry White Male.

I trust Obama when he says he will govern for all Americans. I don't think a pro-Black agenda is even possible. Remember he was raised by his white mother and white grandparents. Is he going to re-distribute wealth from the white elites and give out reparations to slave descendents, i don't think so.

I don't think there will ever be a clean-issue-free Black male or woman that would ever appease the Angry White male voter.
Listen, i have many black friends myself but this is not the point . I am not running to be President of the USA but alas this imbecile Obama is . Look, he has been caught lieing on quite a few occasions now andm it is wearing thin on my patience that he takes the American public as fools . Anyone with an IQ over 60 will see through all his rhetoric today with his speech that meant absolutely zero ! On CNN they just showed all of Obama's double talk over this issue.On Saturday he said he was never in the pews during sermons where Wright used such hideous language and ideals but now today during his yaaaawning speech he finally admits to being in the pews during sermons where Wright has spoken this crap ! He had to, to be honest, does he think we as Americans would believe that he was never in the pews during one of Wrights foot in mouth sermons ? His chance at becoming President just went down the dumper with this debacle and he can only blame himself . He not once really scorned Wright or said that he cringed while sitting in the pews during Wrights garbage falling from his mouth but yet, he said he cringed when his own Grandmother said something i would imagine only half as bad as Wright said . Obama does not even know what is right or what is wrong anymore , he confuses himself with his own untruths. But then again they are "just words" his own words that he now has to choke on !Obama has nerve to even think he deserves to be in the same league as Hillary Clinton, he should be ashamed ...Go Hillary ! I am so tired of this boo hoo hoo black i get repressed rhetoric , get over it and stop having ur preachers preach this crap every Sunday and maybe one day it will not be discussed but until then and until we don't have bigots like Wright in this world we as Americans will be divided . I can guarantee that we in our "white church" do not talk about Obama the way Wright talks about America and whites while an ignorant fool Obama sits in the pews and claps like a 5 year old at a birthday party littered with clowns . Then you blacks tell me who the real racists are huh?
Have another sermon about us filthy whites lol ..how amusing , that guy should be ignored PERIOD!
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