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Actually, he's also winning the indpendent vote.
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That kind of rhetoric has no place in the president of the United States, and you would be a fool to think Obama has such poor judgement not to know what his church's basic values are, and that is to destroy the white man. The left wing nut jobs call this an attack from his opponents, I call it an eye opening revelation, because I actually thought Obama would have been good for our nation, and bring to rest the ugliness of racist ideas, I was wrong.
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Looking up sources right now - I highly doubt more independents are going for republicans
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Obama has lost 8% approval in the last 4 week..4% over 3 weeks then 4% over the weekend. If you think this speech is going to save him you're nuts.
Hillary is now the only real factor for Democrats in a general election. If she goes so do they. .... Quote:
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McCain/Palin 2008 "We make war that we may live in peace" "Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." "Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will" http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A |
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So far, I have calculated the total independent vote for democrats vs republicans in New York (typically "blue" state) and Virginia (typically "red" state) and democrats are winning over independents 2 to 1, according to the exit polls from cnn. I will post the full results when I get them.
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The General election hasn't happenned.
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McCain/Palin 2008 "We make war that we may live in peace" "Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." "Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will" http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A |
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Applyign nomination process vote sizes to General Election outcomes has historically been shown to be pretty pointless.
Obama Wins Missippi; Over 100,000 more votes than John McCain Independents tend to be conservative leaning.... DO I think more Independents will go for a centrist over a liberal especially after this pastor crap..you bet. Few more days and Obama approval ratings will be lower the Hillary Clintons. This speech works with those who didn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) to begin with but it flopped in general.
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McCain/Palin 2008 "We make war that we may live in peace" "Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." "Keep that faith,keep your courage,stick together, stay strong,do not yield,do not flinch,stand up,we're Americans,we'll never surrender they will" http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A Last edited by DuH2; 03-18-2008 at 02:38 PM. |
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I'm not trying to correlate democratic primary turnout with democratic gen election turnout - I'm saying that McCain will not defeat a 2 to 1 advantage in independent voters in less than one year. If anything, courting the conservative vote will skew it even more, considering the fallout people have had with the GOP in the past few years. Moreover, I'm also debating the point that the independent phenomenon only involves democrats and liberals. The independent voters are voting more frequently for a democratic candidate than a republican one. The analysis in the link is flawed. It says that while Clinton had it easy, Dole had a protracted battle. Well, now McCain has it easy and Democrats are experiencing the protracted battle. Not only that, the Dems still have a lead in the votes. Each presidential race is unique, and this year is no exception. Comparing it to previous election years will not help your argument.
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