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Old 03-25-2008, 12:27 PM
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All right... For those who seem to know so much about Obama, I'd like to challenge you to answer a number of questions. If you answer 90% of the questions correctly or with a fact based yes, I will send you, each, $50 by mail. I'm being serious, I will send the money, but you have to answer these questions first. There's also a bonus question, worth an extra $10, at the bottom for those who beat the challenge. And yes folks, it's possible to win.

Here they are:

Question1: Have you ever met Obama?

Question 2: Have you ever spoken with Obama?

Question 3: Have you ever spent more than an hour with Obama, hanging out.

Question 4: What was his ambitions, as a kid?

Question 4: What's his favorite hobby, color, flavor of ice cream?

Question 5: Has he ever killed anyone?

Question 6: Has he ever cheated on his wife or hit her?

Question 7: Has he ever commited an act of terrorism, that you've witnessed?

Question 8: Have you ever met his family, at least a majority of his family;
and do you personally know a majority of his friends?

Question 9: What does a majority of his friends and family say about him?

Question 10: Would you say that your opinion of Obama is not based on an
outside source (the media, other candidates, etc.).

Bonus question/Extra $10: Did Obama's concern for society start after he
gained wealth and/or presidential candidacy?


Note: The bonus question only counts if added onto the 90% grade.

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So what's your point? You have to know a President personally and have met him to have an opinion? Ask yourself the same questions about Bush.
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Well , now that i have met Obama " i am really proud to be an American " ! I win right ? I will call you with my address so you know where to ship this money ..........
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So what's your point? You have to know a President personally and have met him to have an opinion? Ask yourself the same questions about Bush.
My point is, that you have to know someone and have met him/her to spread facts. Speak your opinion all you want; it's your right. But, opinions aren't facts; and when those opinions begin to negatively affect the subject's life it brings forth a serious concern. Do you understand now?
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And here i was already thinking that i won...
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My point is, that you have to know someone and have met him/her to spread facts. Speak your opinion all you want; it's your right. But, opinions aren't facts; and when those opinions begin to negatively affect the subject's life it brings forth a serious concern. Do you understand now?
No unfortunately I don't. Now I'm more confused. You have to have met someone to spread facts? I never met Jefferson so neither I nor anyone can comment on his belief against a strong central government? And opinions affecting someone is a concern. It's my opinion that if you're a convicted felon that you shouldn't be able to run for public office. So that opinion, which negatively impacts felons, is a concern?
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No unfortunately I don't. Now I'm more confused. You have to have met someone to spread facts? I never met Jefferson so neither I nor anyone can comment on his belief against a strong central government? And opinions affecting someone is a concern. It's my opinion that if you're a convicted felon that you shouldn't be able to run for public office. So that opinion, which negatively impacts felons, is a concern?
I must say, you're putting up a great debate. Ok, here we go... Your opinion on a fact is a differen't story. If Jefferson has proved his belief, then it becomes a fact; and your opinion on that fact is fine. Most quotes about Obama's personal ambitions, beliefs and quotes are based on allegations and are yet to be proven, therefore an opinion on them will currently stand irrelevant. My point is that if you're going to spread your opinion about someone based on rumors, you need to make sure that those rumors are based on fact. And you must truly uncover those facts and not choose to believe them simply because you don't like the person. Do you know that if someone hated you and i told a negative lie about you to that person, they would believe it without question. Everyone is questioning Obama, but not questioning the facts. That is what the media likes. I didn't vote for Hillary, but I never hated her because of what the media said about her actions. I thought for myself, and I still have respect for her; unless she proves, by fact, to be unpatriotic.
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Question1: Do you want to meet Obama? No

Question 2: Do you want to speak with Obama? No

Question 3: Have you ever spent more than an hour with Obama, hanging out. Thankfully no.

Question 4: What was his ambitions, as a kid? Who cares. With the help of the US Government, he was able to propel himself through the educational system, where a white kid of equal standards was forced to set for lower standards.

Question 4: What's his favorite hobby, color, flavor of ice cream? What is this, a fan forum?

Question 5: Has he ever killed anyone? To my knowledge, no. But I also didn't know he belongs to a racist church.

Question 6: Has he ever cheated on his wife or hit her? I don't know. Very possibly.

Question 7: Has he ever commited an act of terrorism, that you've witnessed?
Yes.

Question 8: Have you ever met his family, at least a majority of his family;
and do you personally know a majority of his friends?
No. Don't want to either. His wife isn't proud of America, which means me.

Question 9: What does a majority of his friends and family say about him?
Anyone can have friends that say nice things about them.

Question 10: Would you say that your opinion of Obama is not based on an
outside source (the media, other candidates, etc.).
Would you say your opinion of any politician is based from an outside source? Or are you his brother, son, etc.

Bonus question/Extra $10: Did Obama's concern for society start after he
gained wealth and/or presidential candidacy?
As far as I am concerned, he doesn't care about society, hence why he belonged to a racist church for 20+ years.

These are dumb questions. Barak Obama is not the savior, so stop acting like he is. He is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up individual just like every other politician.

Government is not the answer, ever.
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Revision:

Question1: Do you want to meet Obama? No

Question 2: Do you want to speak with Obama? No

Question 3: Have you ever spent more than an hour with Obama, hanging out. Thankfully no.

Question 4: What was his ambitions, as a kid? Who cares. With the help of the US Government, he was able to propel himself through the educational system, where a white kid of equal standards was forced to set for lower standards.

Question 4: What's his favorite hobby, color, flavor of ice cream? What is this, a fan forum?

Question 5: Has he ever killed anyone? To my knowledge, no. But I also didn't know he belongs to a racist church.

Question 6: Has he ever cheated on his wife or hit her? I don't know. Very possibly.

Question 7: Has he ever commited an act of terrorism, that you've witnessed?
Yes.

Question 8: Have you ever met his family, at least a majority of his family;
and do you personally know a majority of his friends?
No. Don't want to either. His wife isn't proud of America, which means me.

Question 9: What does a majority of his friends and family say about him?
Anyone can have friends that say nice things about them.

Question 10: Would you say that your opinion of Obama is not based on an
outside source (the media, other candidates, etc.).
Would you say your opinion of any politician is based from an outside source? Or are you his brother, son, etc.

Bonus question/Extra $10: Did Obama's concern for society start after he
gained wealth and/or presidential candidacy?
As far as I am concerned, he doesn't care about society, hence why he belonged to a racist church for 20+ years.

These are dumb questions. Barak Obama is not the savior, so stop acting like he is. He is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up individual just like every other politician.

Government is not the answer, ever.
So, he's not the savior, but he's the devil? Why weren't you there for the allegations of him being the Anti-Christ? And where do you get off with your attitude? You want to talk, talk like an adult, speak with some decency. I never said he was the Savior; that's not even on the subject. People like you are too stubborn in hate to take a challenge like mine seriously. You know what? I don't care what anyone says about my challenge. I didn't post it for opinions on it. I'm also yet to find one person who can honestly beat the challenge. I know that stubborn people like you get comfortable where they are, and hate to be put on the spot. That's what this challenge can do to someone. Don't hate; don't rant; don't waste my time; just beat my challenge. I dare you!!
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I must say, you're putting up a great debate. Ok, here we go... Your opinion on a fact is a differen't story. If Jefferson has proved his belief, then it becomes a fact; and your opinion on that fact is fine. Most quotes about Obama's personal ambitions, beliefs and quotes are based on allegations and are yet to be proven, therefore an opinion on them will currently stand irrelevant. My point is that if you're going to spread your opinion about someone based on rumors, you need to make sure that those rumors are based on fact. And you must truly uncover those facts and not choose to believe them simply because you don't like the person. Do you know that if someone hated you and i told a negative lie about you to that person, they would believe it without question. Everyone is questioning Obama, but not questioning the facts. That is what the media likes. I didn't vote for Hillary, but I never hated her because of what the media said about her actions. I thought for myself, and I still have respect for her; unless she proves, by fact, to be unpatriotic.
Most of the quotes on Obama are opinion...such as? There should be numerous examples since you said most. Additionally, facts can also be opinions depending on your perspective. Global warming may be a fact to someone and an opinion to someone else.
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