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Washington, D.C. — Sen. John McCain slammed Sen. Barack Obama Monday after the IL Senator again alleged that McCain is willing to wage a 100-year war in Iraq.

“In all due respect he does not understand…the fundamental elements of national security and warfare,” McCain told reporters aboard his plane during a flight to the Washington area, where he is set to deliver a speech at his high school in Alexandria, VA on Tuesday.

Obama has been hammering McCain for comments he made at a January town hall meeting where the AZ Senator said he would be comfortable with a century-long U.S. troop presence in Iraq. While McCain was alluding a peace-time military force, Democrats have used the comments to make the case that McCain is willing to fight a 100 year war in Iraq.

While the non-partisan factcheck.org gives more merit to McCain’s argument, the presumptive GOP nominee has still had to repeatedly explain what he meant while on the trail. Today he provided the context as a side entree to a main course of Obama roast.

“It displays a fundamental misunderstanding of history and how we’ve maintained national security, and what we need to do in the future to maintain our security in the face of the transcendent challenge of radical Islamic extremism. And I understand that because he has no experience or background in any of it,” McCain said. “(He) either hasn’t read or (doesn’t) understand…the history of this country in warfare, and the way that we secure alliances and secure the peace–and that’s through military government to government agreements that call for United States presence and mutual defense. Not only in that country itself, but also in the region. Our troops in Japan maintain a military presence in Asia. Our troops in Japan and South Korea maintain stability in Asia. The same thing was true after World War II about our troops in Germany.”

Asked if he is concerned whether Obama’s 100 years argument will win out, McCain said he trusts voters and took a second shot at the Democrat. “I think the American people are smart enough to figure that out….and they’ll understand over time if they don’t know that he has no experience or background on these issues,” McCain said.
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...y-mccain-says/

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Pensacola, FL — McCain Senior Adviser Steve Schmidt accused Barack Obama of “dishonesty” and “nonsense talk” regarding his plan for a post-war “strike force” and accusation that McCain supports a 100 year war in Iraq.

“The lofty rhetoric of change, coupled with I’m different, ‘I will run a campaign for the American people that is different,’ has been reduced through this instance to nonsense talk,” Schmidt told a group of assembled press in the aisle of the McCain campaign plane during a flight to Pensacola.

Schmidt also referred to Obama as “detached from reality,” engaging in “old-style Chicago politics,” a practitioner of the “politics of distortion,” and “absolutely dishonest.”

Schmidt held court for more than 20 minutes, describing Obama as “dishonest” at a rate of at least two times a minute—more than 40 times by my count.

The McCain campaign is responding with vigor and force every time Obama accuses the presumptive GOP nominee of willing to fight a 100-year war or maintain an occupation for that long in Iraq. Schmidt reiterated today that McCain is talking about a century-long post-war presence like current missions in Japan and Germany–as opposed to a 100-year military conflict. More here.

Initial highlights: (more coming)

Schmidt on the strike force:

“It speaks to somebody who has a very ill-conceived plan, that’s not well thought out, based on a lack of experience and preparation. What is a strike force? Who is in the strike force? Is it a joint strike force? What is its composition? Where is this so called strike force going to be based at?”

“It’s nonsensical, it makes no sense. It makes no sense at any level.”

“If we send all the troops out of Iraq, is the strike force not inherently a combat force?”



Schmidt on Obama distorting McCain’s comments about a 100-year post-war presence in Iraq:

“It’s rhetoric again that is detached from reality.”

“I actually think that Senator Obama has done the country a great service on this 100 years comment because now the American people have the information they need to have to know that he is not being honest–that he is being dishonest when he gets out and makes that charge.”




“It’s not a question of John McCain said ‘X’ and your opponent said ‘Y’…Barack Obama is deliberately misleading the American people. He is deliberately misleading people. He knows he is misleading people. It’s absolutely dishonest. And Barack Obama then gets to give up his claim of being the practitioner of a new type of politics, which is above the politics of distortion. He doesn’t get to have it both ways.”

“Its old-style Chicago politics. It’s old school, ‘lets distort, (and) take things out of context.’”

“The lofty rhetoric of change, coupled with I’m different, ‘I will run a campaign for the American people that is different,’ has been reduced through this instance to nonsense talk.”

“There is no shade of gray here….this is a debate over Barack Obama’s honesty. He is being dishonest with the American people.”
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008...nonsense-talk/


Was really stupid to take 1/4 of McCains comment and intentionally try to distort it as the Democrast did. Now they have Hillary and Obama stuck in a corner again with no defense for their actions.
They have been in effect caught lying intentionally and stupidly to the American people in regards to a man many of them (if not most) respect as honest.

I don't think the Democrats really have any clue whatsoever as to how to campaign against McCain. This type of crap hurts them badly but they did it knowingly to themselves.....

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Obama's campaign is falling apart, hilarious!
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What worries me is the short American attention span and the apparent inability of some Americans to see past a short sound-bite like "hundred years of war."

There are numerous examples of "bush-lied" folks on this board, people who are incapable of nuanced thought and who are black/white simplistic thinkers. I worry that this is what America is becoming.
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Notice how the lib media gleefully zeroes in on McCain's admission that he knows little about economics? But Obama has no qualifications in defense or foreign policy.
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McCain spanked Howard Dean pretty hard also on his stupid comments.
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Barack can get a lot of traction using demagoguery in the primary. Wouldn't it be a refreshing change to see a democrat debate the facts instead of LYING about the position of their opponent?
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What worries me is the short American attention span and the apparent inability of some Americans to see past a short sound-bite like "hundred years of war."

There are numerous examples of "bush-lied" folks on this board, people who are incapable of nuanced thought and who are black/white simplistic thinkers. I worry that this is what America is becoming.
Yes. And that is exactly why the liberal main stream press often has misleading catchy headlines. Because this is all a LOT of people ever read.
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Notice how the lib media gleefully zeroes in on McCain's admission that he knows little about economics? But Obama has no qualifications in defense or foreign policy.
The liberal media will do all they can to assist Obama. After all, he's the most liberal Senator for 2007 out of all of them. The guy would take us back in history----WAAAYYY back.
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Obama is lying and should be called on his lies by the media, that is after all part of their job. Since McCain clearly did not say he supports 100 years of war. But Obama is allowed to lie apparently and not be called on it.
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Another argument for perpetual war.


John McCain doesn't understand that the entire mission in Iraq is stupid, and never should have happened...

And that there is no military solution since victory is out of our hands.


100 years=100 years.

He doesn't have a plan to win, only to stay, like an idiot.
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