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Old 04-03-2008, 12:21 PM
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i dont. it doesnt matter to me.

Well it should, shouldn't it? Even if you don't know, you have life. See my point?
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:23 PM
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You used the word forced and equated it to punishment. I can't help that you provided a bad example.
you gave the examples. a person doesnt have to feed or provide clothing for a child, adoption is an option, being a parent is an option. a person doesnt have to complete duties for their employer, not having a job is an option, being self employed is an option, finding another job with preferable duties is an option.
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I don't care how PC you make it, having a baby is a burden on the parents if they are not ready to have one. Moreover, making abortion illegal would increase the dangers of self-performed abortions, which would put the mother herself in danger. It would also increase the rate of orphaned, unwanted children, increase the rate of abused children, etc. You have to consider the child's life after birth and not just before. People will have unprotected sex whether abortion is legal or not.

From what I understand there are long waiting lists for people wanting to adopt.

There are really easy ways NOT to get pregnant. Once that happens you have a life to deal with.

Getting pregnant is not like losing your keys or running out of gas on the highway. It's not a goofy mistake you should be able to solve as though it meant nothing.
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Good for them.
hahahaha...


Or do you support illegal dumping of medical waste?
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I'm not aware that they've even been fined. They were told to retrain some workers.


Mysteriously, the fetuses the prolifer's claim were buried,(!!!) showed up as images on pro-life websites. Imagine that.


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No, and in those instances it should be legal. But since they represent a small percentage of abortions performed let's move on to the majority which are not rape.
So, you agree with Obama's comment, in context.

We could debate the morality of reproductive rights, in general, if you like...

But the topic here is the truncated sound bite.

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Why do pro choicers think murdering an infant days away from leaving the womb and able to survive on its own is acceptable?
Late term abortions have been banned.
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Well it should, shouldn't it? Even if you don't know, you have life. See my point?
if i didnt have life, i wouldnt spend my days thinking of what couldve been. i see your point, its weak.
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You really must stop beating around the bush...are you pro-life or pro-choice?

e·quiv·o·ca·tion 1. the use of equivocal or ambiguous expressions, esp. in order to mislead or hedge; prevarication. eg. "I am pro-life, but I am for a womans right to 'choose'" or "I support the troops, but not the mission"

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...I believe in one's freedom to choose.
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If you're going to use jargon, use it correctly.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tacit

I am in no way implying that I support abortion. I support the Constitution and people's freedom to choose.
tac·it 2 : implied or indicated (as by an act or by silence) but not actually expressed

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Sorry, but the connotation of tacit necessitates I actually believe I support abortion, which I do not.
pro–choice: favoring the legalization of abortion

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Pro-choice

You must be right...I guess I have a tendency to see ambiguity where there is none.
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And you think unwanted babies are going to find themselves in a loving, caring situation?

Pro-choice people agree: all babies should be wanted, so they can get the love and care they deserve.
Actually yes they will be, the line of loving parents looking to adopt children is an incredibly long one.
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you gave the examples. a person doesnt have to feed or provide clothing for a child, adoption is an option, being a parent is an option. a person doesnt have to complete duties for their employer, not having a job is an option, being self employed is an option, finding another job with preferable duties is an option.
Right, adoption is an option. So having a child doesn't force you to be a parent.
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ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
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Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.
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tac·it 2 : implied or indicated (as by an act or by silence) but not actually expressed



pro–choice: favoring the legalization of abortion

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Pro-choice

You must be right...I guess I have a tendency to see ambiguity where there is none.
So now you're defining my own beliefs based on what a dictionary says, instead of my own words?
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hahahaha...I'm not aware that they've even been fined. They were told to retrain some workers.
Doesn't matter, if they illegally dumped waste and were caught then you should be happy. Unless you support the illegal dumping of medical waste as long as they are abortion clinics.

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So, you agree with Obama's comment, in context.
No since he wasn't referring to rape.

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Late term abortions have been banned.
Much to the consternation of many liberals.
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ANWR Exploration Republicans: 91% Supported. Democrats: 86% Opposed.
Coal-to-liquid R's: 90% YES. D's: 78% NO.
Oil Shale Exploration R's: 90% YES. D's: 86% NO.
Outer Continental Shelf Exploration R's: 81% YES. D's: 83% NO.
Increased Refinery Capacity R's: 97% YES. D's: 96% NO

SUMMARY: 91% of House Republicans have historically voted to increase the production of America’s own oil and gas. 86% of House Democrats have historically voted against.
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