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Old 04-19-2008, 02:08 PM
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Default Reasons Why Hillary Clinton Will Not Be The Democratic Nominee for President

When Bill Clinton came to Microsoft to give a speech, he was received warmly by a crowd who were impressed by his wisdom and his view of a better, more helpful and compassionate world. People naturally are drawn to and appreciate an intelligent, well-spoken person who can think on their feet. He touched on a lot of issues and he had a lot of great one-liners in dealing with world events such as "Osama bin Laden likes technology just like the west likes technology. But bin Laden likes it exclusively and the west likes it inclusively". While the crowd was left pondering this gem, Clinton would either throw out either another line of insight, or a line of wisdom or a line of encouragement. This left the group constantly intrigued and mentally stimulated.

There was a question-and-answer period at the end of this speech and Clinton answered each with detail and precision. One woman asked if he could hold a Cabinet position in a Hillary presidency. Specifically, I believe she asked if he could be secretary of state.

The former president said, "That is a good question. The answer is no." And then he explained that a law was passed – I believe during the Lyndon Johnson administration – that said an immediate family member of the president can not be in the cabinet. This had something do to with Bobby Kennedy being in John Kennedy's Cabinet and a president can not or should not have to fire a family member. President Clinton went on to say that he thought that this was actually a very good idea.

This makes me wonder because Hillary was in charge of revamping the Health Care system during Bill Clinton's presidency. But on the other hand, this really was not a position of power.

(#1) A Hillary Clinton Presidency will not Mirror the Years of the Bill Clinton Presidency
This leads me to the first reason why Hillary Clinton will not be the Democratic nominee for president.

I always suspected that the only reason why many people liked Hillary Clinton was because of the run-off charisma from her husband. When I first noticed her surfacing as a candidate for president, I was at a loss as to why so many people liked her and they seemed to like her very much. I went to several liberal and progressive web forums. They seemed to be upset by my just asking the question as if I was questioning some divine prophecy. Trying to get into the heads and understanding how liberals think is often difficult. Ann Coulter might be wrong about a lot of things, but one thing I think she gets right is that Liberalism is like a church. You can not question the divine doctrine or those who are appointed the Pope of the Church of Liberalism – doing so will get you banished from the Progressive web forums.

Regardless, without any other reason for supposing why people liked Hillary, I was left with only the name recognition and the face recognition and their subconscious appreciation of happier times. When all possible reasons are discounted, the only reason left, no matter how improbable, is the only possible explanation.

My suspicions were confirmed by several people who would openly admit "I miss Bill" when I am talking about having a president Hillary.

Well, it is time for me to officially burst this bubble. As Bill Clinton said himself, he can not be placed into any real position of power in a Hillary presidency.

So now ask yourself this. If you could erase Bill Clinton from the picture – if you could remove the association between Bill and Hillary, would you still be excited about Hillary Clinton being president?

You might tell yourself that since Hillary seemed to be a powerful player when Bill was president, it might work the other way. It would not. The two have very different personalities and ideologies and interpersonal skills and management styles. Bill is a charismatic intellectual while Hillary is a driven, ambitious and power-hungry leftist ideologue. Switch the seats of power and you have a very different administration and, as a result, a more troubling future for our country.

Being the wife of Bill Clinton should not be a reason why you would want to support Hillary. A Hillary Clinton Presidency will not be any way like the Bill Clinton Presidency.
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(#2) How Hillary Handled the Paula Jones Issue

Is Hillary a good decision maker? If you think she is, I have to say you have been duped by the well-rehearsed and well-funded Clinton media machine. People who have been close to her – such as her Whitewater associates and people close to the Stan Lee campaign scandal -- will tell you that they are left in awe by how she is willing to back-stab her supporters; and how she is unwilling to negotiate, or compromise on policy; and how she seems to be devoid of any ethical or moral standard in dealing with people. This has lead to the downfall of the careers of those closest to her. A perfect example of this last personality trait is seen in how she handled the Paula Jones case. And this is a reason why she does not deserve to be considered for the nation's highest office.

In case you do not know or do not remember, this is the case in a nutshell. In May 1991 Paula Jones was a state employee in Arkansas and was asked to have a face-to-face meeting in a hotel with then-governor Bill Clinton. Shall I continue or do you want to skip to the next paragraph? Basically it seemed that Bill Clinton and Paula Jones had different ideas of what was supposed to take place in this face-to-face meeting. That became clear when Governor Clinton showed his erect penis and Paula Jones made a dash for the door.

Eventually Clinton and Jones found themselves in a sexual harassment suit. By the time Bill Clinton had become president, Jones' lawyers were looking for more evidence since the original event did not have many witnesses and it was becoming a case of he-said-she-said.

But that changed when rumors began to surface that Clinton was involved in some inappropriate behavior with some White House interns.

Jones’ lawyers convinced the judge in the case that specifics of this behavior would go far to show Bill Clinton's pattern of behavior and provide credibility to the Paula Jones' side of the story. The Judge in the Paula Jones case agreed that Jones' lawyers could interview White House interns.

When Hillary heard of this, she decided to fight this. That is right. Hillary, not Bill, swung into action. Details of what happened are described in the book The Truth About Hillary. Hillary summoned her talented and her high-cost lawyers to the White House for advice.

The advice she got, I admit, was very sound. Her advice is simply this: It is important that we make this go away as quickly and as ethically as possible. We need to see if Jones will drop the case in exchange for a cash settlement and some sort of watered-down admission from the President.

Hillary should have taken that advice.

To Hillary Clinton, telling the truth has never been the course of action to take. So she decided to fight but she decided to fight the investigation in a way that I do not think anyone can say makes any sense. She went on national morning television and said that the Paula Jones case, the investigation into inappropriate behavior of The President with White House interns were all a vast right-wing conspiracy. Clearly, as outlined in The Truth About Hillary and supported by many witnesses, Hillary must have known about Monica Lewinsky and affairs with other White House interns. But somehow, in Hillary's mind, she had delivered a severe blow to some dark, imaginary evil force. After giving this infamous vast right-wing conspiracy rambling rant on NBC's Today's Show the program cut to commercial and she has been reported to have said that will teach them to f**k with us.



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All this leads to a noteworthy outcome. The result of Hillary ignoring the intelligent and good advice of her lawyers and the result of choosing to be combative was the Impeachment proceedings of the president. The Monica Lewinsky affair became public knowledge and a public and international humiliation for the United States. All this would have been avoided if Hillary made the right decision. All this would not have happened if not for Hillary.

Is Hillary a good decision maker? If you think she is, I have to say you have been duped by the well-rehearsed and well-funded Clinton media machine that avoids these facts.
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So to your knowledge there is no vast right wing conspiracy in America?
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Hillary Clinton is just a plain ol every day liar with huge ambitions.
The only reason she's not in prison for perjury is her faux status.
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IMO Hillary Clinton is a brilliant, grand lady with super leadership qualities and she gets it!

I voted for her in the primary; I will vote for her again as our nominee.
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Good point. Why vote for someone (Hilary) with REAL plans when you can vote for someone (Obama) who is "talking" about real change?

If you want to vote for someone who "TALKS" about REAL change, then you are going to get that....."TALK" about REAL change.
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If you want to vote for someone who "TALKS" about REAL change.
Clinton was late to get onto the change bandwagon, because she was the establisment candidate.

You're late to jump on the Hillary wagon, because she's finishimo.
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Clinton was late to get onto the change bandwagon, because she was the establisment candidate.

You're late to jump on the Hillary wagon, because she's finishimo.
It's all good. As long as we get "REAL CHANGE".
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