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Old 04-23-2008, 07:40 AM
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He is Anti-American and that goes against my core beliefs.
So I guess you buy into the smear campaign. That's unfortunate. The idea of someone anti-American running for president is itself ridiculous. You people should be ashamed of yourselves for actually believing this nonsense.

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Old 04-23-2008, 07:44 AM
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I am a Democrat, also happen to be a Minority and have never voted for a Republican.

So let me ask you, what is wrong with disliking gays?

I can alos say that I would never vote for Nobama, not because he's black. I'm a minority. But because I believe he is the worst Canidate in my Lifetime (and that includes Carter and Dukais and Kerry) that the Dem's have ever put up there. He is Anti-American and that goes against my core beliefs.

PS - Yeah, I am a gun owner too. Diddy I think you don't understand how much avg, America hates this guy. Hopefully Howard Dean will figure this out, if not there is always 2012.
Well, you have to sit up and listen when a Clinton supporter postulates.

*smug elitist smile* lol
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I'm an independent for one thing not a liberal. Just because I think Bush is an incompetent leader doesn't make me liberal, doesn't even exclude me from being republican, I choose to weigh up his actions and determine my own opinion, over blind party loyalty.
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Diddy I think you don't understand how much avg, America hates this guy.
Apparently, there aren't that many "average Americans" because Obama leads in pledged delegates, states won, and popular vote.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:55 AM
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You have to factor in the massive hatred for Bush, Obama can easily link McCain to Bush.
naw, at least Bush doesn't Hate america, or blame the "Govment" for everthing that is wrong.

Out of everyone I know that voted Democratic Primary none will vote for Nobama. That's what yall don't get.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:58 AM
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Out of everyone I know that voted Democratic Primary none will vote for Nobama. That's what yall don't get.
I see you're from Texas, so how do you explain Texas basically going 50-50 in its primary? Also, I see that you're from Tomball, which is right outside of Houston, which went predominantly for Obama 56 to 43. What, do you only hang out with Hillary supporters?

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Apparently, there aren't that many "average Americans" because Obama leads in pledged delegates, states won, and popular vote.

Caucuses are run by the Liberal activists and have a very low turn out, and don't show the way a state will swing in November.

So your more states thing is a load of crap, you think a guy who loses Ohio, Penn, NJ, NY, Tex., and Cal. can win the electoral college. won't happen.

You think the gun toting moderates are gonna get behind this guy? Your wrong.
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naw, at least Bush doesn't Hate america, or blame the "Govment" for everthing that is wrong.

Out of everyone I know that voted Democratic Primary none will vote for Nobama. That's what yall don't get.
Ok, no offense, but that's why that conversation was with C-D-P and not you, he's able to disagree with me yet hold a rational, respectful conversation without saying stupid things like "at least Bush doesn't hate America".
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Caucuses are run by the Liberal activists and have a very low turn out, and don't show the way a state will swing in November.

So your more states thing is a load of crap, you think a guy who loses Ohio, Penn, NJ, NY, Tex., and Cal. can win the electoral college. won't happen.

You think the gun toting moderates are gonna get behind this guy? Your wrong.
Since when is a primary reflective of what happens during a general election? Did you ever stop to think that many Hillary supporters will back Obama if he wins the general? And you're going to tell me that NY and Cali will go red if Obama wins? Are you out of your mind?

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I think the dynamics will change somewhat once Hillary bows out gracefully lol

You have to factor in the massive hatred for Bush, Obama can easily link McCain to Bush.

So long as Hillary isn't the next president I'll be happy, but then we all know she wont be.
I really do not think it will be as hard as all that. But then again. People will have to actually think for themselves for a change. So we will see what happens.
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I really do not think it will be as hard as all that. But then again. People will have to actually think for themselves for a change. So we will see what happens.
Well this is the problem. lol
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