I dont recall anyone asking the dems to stop it.

Just what neocons are you referring to??

This is just like the governor's mansion in New Jersey.. He said this... well, he said that...

Both the swiftee ads and the NUMEROUS LIBERAL HITMAN ADS are totally uncalled for and should be done away with. People have likened me to McCain before.. i take it as a compliment.. You could say Leibermann and i wouldn't be upset.

BTW, the president IS on record condeming all of these types of ads on both sides and has been for a long time. Look it up! He cannot tell them or ask them to remove the ad as that would denote some sort of command structure, essentially setting himself up for a criminal lawsuit even if he has no authority with the swiftees. Common sense here people.. and Senator Kerry had best watch out.. with his condemning the recent moveon.org ad.. and subsequently the ad was changed.. well you can see it COULD become quite the sticky wicket, wot? (now imagine that said with a southern accent and laugh your head off! - i know my wife does!)

In answer to the above poster... a question kind sir..

Did you ask for Senator Kerry to condemn Farenheit 911 or tell him to admonish Micheal Moore? because if you are not on record doing that it would be highly suspect to come out guns blazing in this knifefight... wouldn't it?

neo-con is a hardcore right wing republican.

I wasn't the saying the Dems wanted to stop it. The "neo-cons" got themselves all worked up over Moores film, yet go out and support something of the same type.
I was proving the hipocracy in the republican party.

An answer, kind sir

The difference to me is, this ad is a complete lie...f 9/11 at least has *some* truth to it.

Like many of your counterparts challenged of the Moore film.. have you read the swiftees book? How do you know that it is all lies? It would seem to me that personal accounts from soldiers on the ground(or in the water as it may be..) should carry a bit of weight. Also, bear in mind that the book you are refering to as all lies has already forced the Kerry camp to make a retraction over the facts relating to a story SEARED in Senator Kerry;s memory... or didn't you know that? Perhaps you SHOULD do more research!

Huh? I apologize, I can't really make sense of what you were trying to say.

Military Documents Contradict Kerry Critic


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WASHINGTON - A Vietnam veteran who claims Sen. John Kerry lied about being under fire during a Mekong Delta engagement that won Kerry a Bronze Star was under constant fire himself during the same skirmish, according to the man's own medal citation, a newspaper reported.

The newly obtained records of Larry Thurlow show that he, like Kerry, won a Bronze Star in the engagement and that Thurlow's citation said he also was under attack, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Thurlow, also like Kerry, commanded a Navy Swift boat during the Vietnam War. Thurlow swore in an affidavit last month that Kerry was "not under fire" when he rescued Lt. James Rassmann from the Bay Hap River.

Thurlow's records, obtained by the Post under the Freedom of Information Act, include references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at all five boats in the flotilla that day. In his Bronze Star citation, Thurlow is praised for helping a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."

The records said Thurlow's actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire," which Thurlow ignored in providing immediate assistance to the disabled boat and its crew.
Thurlow is a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of Vietnam veterans who have aired a television advertisement attacking Kerry's war record.

Kerry has described how his boat came under fire from the river banks after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. Swift boat. Kerry and members of his crew say the firing continued as Kerry leaned over to fish out Rassmann, who was blown overboard in another explosion.
Thurlow described Kerry's Bronze Star citation as "totally fabricated," saying "I never heard a shot."

Thurlow, a registered Republican, said he was angry with Kerry for his anti-war activities after his return to the United States, especially his claim that U.S. troops committed war crimes with the knowledge of their officers up the chain of command.
Thurlow told the Post that he got the award for helping to rescue the boat that was mined.
"This casts doubt on anybody's awards," he said. "It is sickening and disgusting."
He said he believed his own award would be "fraudulent" if it was based on coming under enemy fire.
"We weren't under fire," he insisted, speculating that Kerry could have been the source of at least some of the language used in the citation.

Thurlow said he lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he would not authorize release of his military records because he feared the Kerry campaign would discredit him. Members of Kerry's crew have said Kerry is telling the truth. Rassmann said he has vivid memories of enemies firing at him from both banks.
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YOU'VE BEEN HAD, SHEEPLES!!!! WHEN wil lyou people learn to do your homework?



Sorry LIBERTY - I should have been morre clear -as should you have. When I said "they" didn't ask 'w' to censor that ad, but to condemn it, I was not spekaing specifically about MoveOn.org, but the Demo-rat party AND Sen John McCain (R).
When you post a quote from Moveon.org you should not say "liberals", but say the truth.

Well Kerry's condemnation of the liar/vets ad must have really pished off the 'w' people because the Faux & Friends morning show was squirming and writhing and whining and spinning, even to the point of lying trying to sneer at Kerry taking the high ground the 'w' didn't have the cojones to climb up to.

That blond was sputtering and hesitating and SO obviously trying to remember all her "talking points" as she spun/lied off the cuff, oh god it was painful to watch - and I don't even liek her! She referred to the anti-Kerry ad as "people who served with Kerry" (which has already been debunked more than once) and how Kerry called on 527 orgs to be stopped but he's okay with these ads from a 527 (wrong again, on both counts) and that 'Kerry has called for the liar vets ads to be stopped '(yet another lie) and on and on and on..........
All it told me was that evil Karl Rove and his minions were spitting flames and sending orders (talking points - smirk) to try and spin this aroudn backwards so that the idiot-in-chief looks like he's on the high ground instead of Kerry.

Poor Karl...........may he rest in peace.




soon.

Thurlow has already stated that he didn't write that after-action report. Perhaps Kerry should release HIS records so people can SEE who DID write that report.

This is almost funny.....if it wasn't so pathetic. John Kerry says he condemns the latest MoveOn.org ad about Bush's military records........BUT his very own campaign puts people like Wesley Clark on all the talk shows to support the ad. In other words, Kerry is the one sending out the goons to support an attacks ad that he says he doesn't support.

And of course....we're all waiting for Kerry to denounce the hateful, nasty words that were said about our president at a Hollywood function that John Kerry attended.......where afterwards he complimented those words and said they represented the "heart and soul" of America.

What a hypocrite! How can anyone take this guy seriously?

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well om clear proof needs to be presentd first. Its really laking so far