Originally Posted by DBG";p=&quot

Military Documents Contradict Kerry Critic


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WASHINGTON - A Vietnam veteran who claims Sen. John Kerry lied about being under fire during a Mekong Delta engagement that won Kerry a Bronze Star was under constant fire himself during the same skirmish, according to the man's own medal citation, a newspaper reported.

The newly obtained records of Larry Thurlow show that he, like Kerry, won a Bronze Star in the engagement and that Thurlow's citation said he also was under attack, The Washington Post reported Thursday.

Thurlow, also like Kerry, commanded a Navy Swift boat during the Vietnam War. Thurlow swore in an affidavit last month that Kerry was "not under fire" when he rescued Lt. James Rassmann from the Bay Hap River.

Thurlow's records, obtained by the Post under the Freedom of Information Act, include references to "enemy small arms and automatic weapons fire" directed at all five boats in the flotilla that day. In his Bronze Star citation, Thurlow is praised for helping a damaged Swift boat "despite enemy bullets flying about him."

The records said Thurlow's actions "took place under constant enemy small arms fire," which Thurlow ignored in providing immediate assistance to the disabled boat and its crew.
Thurlow is a leading member of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a public advocacy group of Vietnam veterans who have aired a television advertisement attacking Kerry's war record.

Kerry has described how his boat came under fire from the river banks after a mine explosion disabled another U.S. Swift boat. Kerry and members of his crew say the firing continued as Kerry leaned over to fish out Rassmann, who was blown overboard in another explosion.
Thurlow described Kerry's Bronze Star citation as "totally fabricated," saying "I never heard a shot."

Thurlow, a registered Republican, said he was angry with Kerry for his anti-war activities after his return to the United States, especially his claim that U.S. troops committed war crimes with the knowledge of their officers up the chain of command.
Thurlow told the Post that he got the award for helping to rescue the boat that was mined.
"This casts doubt on anybody's awards," he said. "It is sickening and disgusting."
He said he believed his own award would be "fraudulent" if it was based on coming under enemy fire.
"We weren't under fire," he insisted, speculating that Kerry could have been the source of at least some of the language used in the citation.

Thurlow said he lost his Bronze Star citation more than 20 years ago. He said he would not authorize release of his military records because he feared the Kerry campaign would discredit him. Members of Kerry's crew have said Kerry is telling the truth. Rassmann said he has vivid memories of enemies firing at him from both banks.
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YOU'VE BEEN HAD, SHEEPLES!!!! WHEN wil lyou people learn to do your homework?



Sorry LIBERTY - I should have been morre clear -as should you have. When I said "they" didn't ask 'w' to censor that ad, but to condemn it, I was not spekaing specifically about MoveOn.org, but the Demo-rat party AND Sen John McCain (R).
When you post a quote from Moveon.org you should not say "liberals", but say the truth.

Well Kerry's condemnation of the liar/vets ad must have really pished off the 'w' people because the Faux & Friends morning show was squirming and writhing and whining and spinning, even to the point of lying trying to sneer at Kerry taking the high ground the 'w' didn't have the cojones to climb up to.

That blond was sputtering and hesitating and SO obviously trying to remember all her "talking points" as she spun/lied off the cuff, oh god it was painful to watch - and I don't even liek her! She referred to the anti-Kerry ad as "people who served with Kerry" (which has already been debunked more than once) and how Kerry called on 527 orgs to be stopped but he's okay with these ads from a 527 (wrong again, on both counts) and that 'Kerry has called for the liar vets ads to be stopped '(yet another lie) and on and on and on..........
All it told me was that evil Karl Rove and his minions were spitting flames and sending orders (talking points - smirk) to try and spin this aroudn backwards so that the idiot-in-chief looks like he's on the high ground instead of Kerry.

Poor Karl...........may he rest in peace.




soon.

Originally Posted by kjs";p=&quot

I find it very interesting that John Kerry has taken such notable interest in something, "he states", is not true. Charges by the swift boat vets.

In my 51 years, I have never seen a President so viscously attacked. I think there are presently about 20 books out, from anywhere to how Bush lied, the lies that Bush told, the liars of the liars telling the lies. Then moveon.org & their constant attack on George Bush for about 1-1/2 years now. And then the ultimate. Farenheight 9/11.

NEVER ONCE, did President Bush blame John Kerry for this, or make any statement that Kerry had anything to do with them. NEVER ONCE, did President Bush send out a train load of attorney's to block any of the above, "freedom of speech." However, I do clearly remember John Kerry telling his followers, that George Bush should release his military records from the guard. When President Bush was under direct attack for some AWOL charge. He did & it silenced all the critics. John Kerry NEVER apologized for himself or for moveon.org.

John Kerry, too can easily silence these Viet Nam Veterans, by releasing his medical 180 form. To date, he hasn't done that. That would prove what his injuries were with a detailed description of how he got them. Today, was the first day, that he mentioned he received shrapnel, "in his leg". Before, it was thought to be in his behind.

We now know, that Kerry clearly lied about being in Cambodia, on Christmas Eve & Christmas day, 1968. A date that was supposed to be "seared" into his memory. The Kerry campaign is backpedaling again.
Which brings to mind, what else has he lied about.

And now what is really suspicious, is he is all out combating the charge. George Bush, learned something of great value from Ronald Reagan. That is: "if it's not true, ignore it."

Originally Posted by MarkH";p=&quot

Repiglicans who want to silence everyone.