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He seems tired, brittle and more aggressive, and some of his appealing hope and charisma have been dispensed with.

Five days after losing to Hillary Clinton in the Pennsylvania primary, Barack Obama has taken off the gloves in his battle to win the American presidency - and in so doing has left critics wondering whether he is not just another conventional politician grubbing for votes.

In Indiana on Friday, scene of his next showdown with Mrs Clinton, he deployed sharper verbal onslaughts to go with the attack advertisements he has begun to run. Tackling the former first lady on health care, her key campaign issue, he said: "Here's the difference between Senator Clinton and myself. All these folks who talk about how experienced they are, you ask yourself, 'Why haven't we got health-care reform?' I'll get it done in my first term."

On Iraq, a war he opposed from the start, he is blunter than ever. "I was right. Those who voted for it, like Hillary Clinton and John McCain, were wrong."

But in the battle to secure the Democratic presidential nomination, it is Mr Obama who has not "got it done". He is convincingly, perhaps insurmountably, ahead in the number of states won, his share of the popular votes cast, and his tally of elected delegates. But he has yet to win over enough party grandees, the "super-delegates", to be sure of securing the nomination.

If he fails to wrest Indiana from Mrs Clinton, who is slightly ahead in the polls, his campaign fears that the remaining uncommitted super-delegates will lose faith in his ability to win and back his rival instead.

Defeat to Mrs Clinton by 10 points in Pennsylvania on Tuesday provided proof that recent ill-chosen words about working-class Americans who "cling" to God and guns because they are "bitter" about their economic hardship have hurt his candidacy. So, too, has his association with Jeremiah Wright, the incendiary pastor of his Chicago church.

Where once Mr Obama emphasised what he could do for voters, at a town hall meeting in Kokomo, north of Indianapolis, he stressed instead what they could do for him. "I need you to fight for me, right here, right now," he pleaded.

He has spent a week facing accusations that he does not identify with ordinary voters. As he courted senior citizens on Friday he tried a little bonding. "Seniors, listen up. I'm getting grey hair myself. Running for president will age you quick."

It is not just his hair that is changing tone. The frontrunner, who had the nomination in the palm of his hand a month ago on the back of soaring rhetoric and a pledge to transform politics, sounds different, too. The Democratic battle increasingly resembles a civil war, with recognisable Cavaliers and Roundheads.

Mr Obama emerged, like Oliver Cromwell, as a challenger to the established order, with his New Model Army of students and internet donors, to unseat Mrs Clinton, whose apparent belief in her divine right to rule the Democrats echoed the doctrine of the Stuart monarchy.

But as the overwhelming favourite to take on Republican John McCain in November's election, Mr Obama now exhibits irritation at his need to keep explaining himself to those voters - including the white working class, older, women and Catholics - who remain stubbornly resistant to his charms. The Pennsylvania campaign created a New Model Obama who, in addition to running attack adverts, complains about media scrutiny of his missteps.

The conservative columnist David Brooks, once an admirer, complained that he has morphed into "a more conventional politician", guilty of "the sorts of fibs, evasions and hypocrisies that are the stuff of conventional politics". The liberal commentator Paul Krugman condemned Mr Obama's reliance on the message that Mrs Clinton is unlikely to overcome his lead among pledged delegates. "'Yes we can' has become 'No she can't'," he wrote last week.

It is all a far cry from February, when the Republican senator Mitch McConnell joked that the Democratic race featured a New York senator born in Illinois, and an Illinois senator "who seems to have been born in a manger".

In the sweltering heat of a school sports hall, Mr Obama is still slick, at times uplifting, but the edges are flintier, the irritation at the same old questions about claims that he disrespects the American flag, more pronounced. "It's a lie," he finally blurts about the claim, after giving a laboured history of his patriotism.

Minutes later a young man is on his feet bursting with enthusiasm as he declares Mr Obama the candidate for his generation. "He's got energy," Mr Obama observes. "I want to plug him in. We could run a generator on him." The moment serves to reinforce the contrast with the candidate, who is clearly tired and lacks the electric energy of two months back.

Linda Colbert, 64, a Kokomo resident, believes he is feeling the pressure of failing to seal the nomination. "He's trying to get more aggressive," she said. "I don't think he expected it to be this close and now he's tightening up because he's got to get over the finish line."

Campaign insiders say the senator will do more to stress his humble roots as the scholarship schoolboy son of a single mother. In Indianapolis last week he pledged to "remind people of where I come from. I was raised with far fewer advantages than either of my two remaining opponents." In Kokomo he peppered his rally speech with references to his days as a community organiser in Chicago "helping folk laid off when the steel mills closed". Yet the poise with which he carries himself can seem aloof. There remains a suspicion that he is reluctant to tailor his appeal to those voters who want their president to be someone like them.

Senator Obama is gracing the next cover of GQ magazine, the men's style bible. One quote released by the magazine is revealing: "I'm in this to win and I think I will win. But I'm also going to emerge intact. I'm going to be Barack Obama and not some parody."

Democrat strategists say his campaign is carefully nailing down the pledges of super-delegates, to wheel out after the final primary on June 3. One strategist told The Sunday Telegraph that he has seen a list of 50 names ready to declare for Mr Obama within days of the last vote, but that his campaign expects to have up to 150, enough to clinch the nomination.

If he is to solidify his advantage, New Model Obama must combine some of the early Cavalier flair, with a bit more Roundhead pragmatism. Or come June, it may be his head the super-delegates chop off.
"Seniors, listen up. I'm getting grey hair myself."

My God, what a putz. Obama clinged to his church early on to snow people into believing he was some fine Christian. Then he tried to distance himself from the church. Seems he cannot make up his mind.

He really is losing it. He's going nuts. He's looked like a mad man recently, willing to do anything to get the presidency. He's turned into Clinton, while Clinton has started to resemble her husband back in the 90s.
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Hillary, as much as I dislike her, has become more humble since losing the lead. Barack has done just the opposite. He's no different than most immature people would be when they are constantly surrounded by adoring fans.
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i think this is where the 'experience' everyone talks about comes into play. as the campaign gets longer, the questions get tougher.
people start looking for better answers.
it's not enough to look good in a swimsuit anymore.
it's the talent portion of the contest now.

Obamma looked bad in the debate.
he looked like he was covering for the fact that he had no idea what to say.

bringing Rev Wright into the campaign was a bad move. i would hope his staff protested strongly. it's one thing to stay true to your friends. it's something completely different to publicly identify so closely with someone you know half the country is gonna 'seriously dislike'.

the 'bitter' thing definitely screwed him in Pennsylvania, and we'll see where else.
every candidate says dumb things sometimes.
it's inevitable.

if obamma has this much trouble fighting the right wing of the democratic party, the GOP is gonna put him in therapy if he's nominated.
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He seems tired, brittle and more aggressive, and some of his appealing hope and charisma have been dispensed with..I noticed that too. He seems to be much sharper and quicker to snap at people than he was in the early days

Five days after losing to Hillary Clinton in the Pennsylvania primary, Barack Obama has taken off the gloves in his battle to win the American presidency - and in so doing has left critics wondering whether he is not just another conventional politician grubbing for votes.And I knew that was coming to happen as soon as he began to get some pressure from the press. I always thought he was just another politician who expected a free ride because he's black!

In Indiana on Friday, scene of his next showdown with Mrs Clinton, he deployed sharper verbal onslaughts to go with the attack advertisements he has begun to run. Tackling the former first lady on health care, her key campaign issue, he said: "Here's the difference between Senator Clinton and myself. All these folks who talk about how experienced they are, you ask yourself, 'Why haven't we got health-care reform?' I'll get it done in my first term.And how does he expect to do this exactly? It's not like he's stepping into a dictatorship where he can just sign something and it's done! He has to go through Congress and due process. The man is an idiot. I firmly believe that he thinks having a black in the White House is CHANGE enough! And I thought he wanted to run a CLEAN campaign with no smear tactics cause he "was better than all that"?I guess if you lay down with hogs ...you get mud and other stuff on ya. lol

On Iraq, a war he opposed from the start, he is blunter than ever. "I was right. Those who voted for it, like Hillary Clinton and John McCain, were wrong.And how long is he going to say that tired old line? Most of the American people were for the war at first...they changed their minds. That doesn't make those who were against the war from the beginning any better than those who bought the lies they heard!

But in the battle to secure the Democratic presidential nomination, it is Mr Obama who has not "got it done". He is convincingly, perhaps insurmountably, ahead in the number of states won, his share of the popular votes cast, and his tally of elected delegates. But he has yet to win over enough party grandees, the "super-delegates", to be sure of securing the nomination.And part of this is because the press went so easy on him for so long. If they would have come out and aired the stuff they've been airing in the last few months (Wright, Ayres, etc)...Obama wouldn't have "almost sewn up the nomination"! Now that his "chickens are coming home to roost"...people are beginning to see that maybe there's "a wolf in the barnyard"

If he fails to wrest Indiana from Mrs Clinton, who is slightly ahead in the polls, his campaign fears that the remaining uncommitted super-delegates will lose faith in his ability to win and back his rival instead.And they should! If Hillary wins Indiana by a large amount...it will prove that the tide is turning and that maybe obama doesn't have what it takes to be our next president!

Defeat to Mrs Clinton by 10 points in Pennsylvania on Tuesday provided proof that recent ill-chosen words about working-class Americans who "cling" to God and guns because they are "bitter" about their economic hardship have hurt his candidacy. So, too, has his association with Jeremiah Wright, the incendiary pastor of his Chicago church.I didn't care about the word bitter. I was upset that he basically said "if you live in a small town you're a bible thumping gun toting person who has no sympathy for anyone not like yourself". I have sympathy for immigrants...LEGAL immigrants that is. But I also think his words were innuendo for "black people" and not "illegal aliens" In other words...people are bitter because I, a black man, am running for president and so these narrow minded folks in their small towns are just not cottoning to me like they should. That's what I think he really meant!

Where once Mr Obama emphasised what he could do for voters, at a town hall meeting in Kokomo, north of Indianapolis, he stressed instead what they could do for him. "I need you to fight for me, right here, right now," he pleaded.He's stealing from Hillary again! lol. HRC has told her supporters and those that are undecided time and time again that SHE needs them to be there for HER. Guess obama took note of THAT. And I guess Hillary does something right as far as obama is concerned.

He has spent a week facing accusations that he does not identify with ordinary voters. As he courted senior citizens on Friday he tried a little bonding. "Seniors, listen up. I'm getting grey hair myself. Running for president will age you quick..Gray hairs do not a senior citizen make! WISDOM and decades make a senior citizen. This is just like a person weighing 102 lbs grumbling cause he/she's "fat"

It is not just his hair that is changing tone. The frontrunner, who had the nomination in the palm of his hand a month ago on the back of soaring rhetoric and a pledge to transform politics, sounds different, too. The Democratic battle increasingly resembles a civil war, with recognisable Cavaliers and Roundheads..Gray hairs do not a senior citizen make! WISDOM and decades make a senior citizen. This is just like a person weighing 102 lbs grumbling cause he/she's "fat"



Mr Obama emerged, like Oliver Cromwell, as a challenger to the established order, with his New Model Army of students and internet donors, to unseat Mrs Clinton, whose apparent belief in her divine right to rule the Democrats echoed the doctrine of the Stuart monarchy.And we all know what happened to England under Oliver Cromwell now don't we?In fact, we know what happened to Oliver Cromwell...he didn't fare so well did he? And I am NOT advocating that anyone HURT Barack Obama...I'm just referring to a bit of English history!
But as the overwhelming favourite to take on Republican John McCain in November's election, Mr Obama now exhibits irritation at his need to keep explaining himself to those voters - including the white working class, older, women and Catholics - who remain stubbornly resistant to his charms. The Pennsylvania campaign created a New Model Obama who, in addition to running attack adverts, complains about media scrutiny of his missteps.Well he'd better curb his irritation because he's going to face that and more if he gets the democratic nomination. He thinks it's bad now...he ain't seen nothin' yet! And when he loses to John McCain in November...I, for one, will sit back with a smile and say "Can't blame my girl Hillary for this!"



The conservative columnist David Brooks, once an admirer, complained that he has morphed into "a more conventional politician", guilty of "the sorts of fibs, evasions and hypocrisies that are the stuff of conventional politics". The liberal commentator Paul Krugman condemned Mr Obama's reliance on the message that Mrs Clinton is unlikely to overcome his lead among pledged delegates. "'Yes we can' has become 'No she can't'," he wrote last week.If you listened to him even in the beginning...he told "white" (OMG am I being racist?)lies and fibs ...he was just never called on them!



It is all a far cry from February, when the Republican senator Mitch McConnell joked that the Democratic race featured a New York senator born in Illinois, and an Illinois senator "who seems to have been born in a manger".Yep...seemed to me like a LOT of folks thought Obama was the second coming!

In the sweltering heat of a school sports hall, Mr Obama is still slick, at times uplifting, but the edges are flintier, the irritation at the same old questions about claims that he disrespects the American flag, more pronounced. "It's a lie," he finally blurts about the claim, after giving a laboured history of his patriotism.I'm surprised he didn't say "They're just picking on me". And unfortunately when you couple his refusal to salute the flag in a public forum with his wife's remarks about only now being proud of her country (and honestly does inserting the word "really" into her statement make it any better? I don't think so.)...the comments from his pastor, friend and mentor of 20 years...it doesn't seem like a LIE to me! It sounds more like the truth. He loves this country and its people when it/they can give him adoration, money and raise him to the highest place in the land...the White House and the Presidency...but when he gets criticized by these same people suddenly it's a different story!

Minutes later a young man is on his feet bursting with enthusiasm as he declares Mr Obama the candidate for his generation. "He's got energy," Mr Obama observes. "I want to plug him in. We could run a generator on him." The moment serves to reinforce the contrast with the candidate, who is clearly tired and lacks the electric energy of two months back.Well I will say that both he and Hillary are looking a little tired with good reason. It's a gruelling schedule they've had to keep for the last year or so. But then again "if you can't take the heat...get out of the kitchen"
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Have to continue cause the post above was too long

Linda Colbert, 64, a Kokomo resident, believes
he is feeling the pressure of failing to seal
the nomination. "He's trying to get more aggressive,
she said. I don't think he expected it to be this
close and now he's tightening up because he's got
to get over the finish lineOf course he didn't. He believed IN MY OPINION that just because he was black...he was an automatic shoe in since nobody could say one thing against him without being called a racist

Campaign insiders say the senator
will do more to stress his humble roots as
the scholarship schoolboy son of a single mother.
In Indianapolis last week he pledged to "remind people
of where I come from. I was raised with far fewer
advantages than either of my two remaining opponents."
In Kokomo he peppered his rally speech with references
to his days as a community organiser in Chicago
"helping folk laid off when the steel mills closed".
Yet the poise with which he carries himself can seem
aloof. There remains a suspicion that he is reluctant
to tailor his appeal to those voters who want their
president to be someone like them.He might have been
raised with less advantages than his two opponents
but he was still raised with a hell of a lot more
advantages than 50% of the American population was
raised with!

Senator Obama is gracing the next cover of GQ magazine,
the men's style bible. One quote released by the
magazine is revealing: "I'm in this to win and I think
I will win. But I'm also going to emerge intact. I'm
going to be Barack Obama and not some parody.Not sure
what to say to this except...who else would he emerge
as if not Barack Obama?


If he is to solidify his advantage, New Model Obama
must combine some of the early Cavalier flair, with a
bit more Roundhead pragmatism. Or come June, it may be
his head the super-delegates chop off. Good one! I love
England/Great Britain!
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I actually admire the Clinton campaign for attacking Barack. She is actually treating him as an equal, even though he wants special treatment because of the color of his skin.
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I think the rev Wright is taking its toll.
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I actually admire the Clinton campaign for attacking Barack. She is actually treating him as an equal, even though he wants special treatment because of the color of his skin.
I find it interesting that so many people view Obama's campaign is a racial one. Especially since he himself has never made "the color of his skin" an issue. Nor has he particularly courted the African American vote any more than any other Democratic candidate. Some even say he has courted it less. Whenever he speaks on race, it is in direct responce to a question or comment, pretty much the way McCain does concerning his age.
Clinton, on the other hand, has made ginder an issue in her campaign, and proudly so.
Yet these types of comments about Obama persist. Why so?
It's a sincere question.
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The very fact that they make him an "african" American..when he is not from Africa.

The fact they say he will be the first black man elected..when he's not black.

The fact that his campaign has stated well the racist vote goes to mcCain.

etc etc..
just fly right by you?



They try to shroud it in wordage but they have been bringing up race in their campaign since the start.
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The very fact that they make him an "african" American..when he is not from Africa.

The fact they say he will be the first black man elected..when he's not black.

The fact that his campaign has stated well the racist vote goes to mcCain.

etc etc..
just fly right by you?



They try to shroud it in wordage but they have been bringing up race in their campaign since the start.
"They" will say a lot of things about any and all of us, for whatever reason. I suppose I assume too much to allow these candidates whether by words or deeds to define their own candidacy? Thus my bewilderment with Obama's race being such a central focus of some individuals.
But it appears to me that your answer is, "Barak Obama's race is an issue because 'they' say it is."
So be it.
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