They didn't put their Imperial government in place either.

They were simply innocent people, and a decision was made by Truman that he would sacrifice those Japanese lives to save Americans' lives. The difference was that the Japanese lives were civilians and the American lives would have been soldiers. I'm not advocating the sacrifice of our troops, but there is a bit of a paradox.

I think that this is an example of our own hypocrisies because we seem to believe that we are above the law, so to speak. We killed all of those Japanese civilians, yet we jump at Saddam when he kills some Kurds. I'm not saying that I think that Saddam was in the right, but I think we need to examine ourselves more closely.

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"Masters of War" by Bob Dylan
"When a man assumes public trust, he should consider himself as public property"
-Thomas Jefferson
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein
"One man with courage is a majority"
-Thomas Jefferson

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ABoyNamedSue - Speaking of Crestwoods posts - And then there'll be some link to some page, written in hindu or something, talking about sherpas and A&W root beer, and how George Bush is to blame for some Jewish neo-nazi death camp, run by Elvis Presley, on the far side of the moon that's been busted for killing kittens or something

In Pearl Harbor, 57 civilians were killed and 2,345 military. The attacked was aimed at the military installations on the island, namely the docked ships and the airbase.

In Hiroshima, 200,000 civilians were killed by carpet bombings before the atomic bomb was dropped. And there were 140,000 as a direct result of the atomic bomb - again, mostly civilian.

In Nagasaki, the bomb left 73,884 dead and 74,909 injured.

If one would contest that they are equivalent in ferocity, then you are implying that an American life is roughly equal to 89 Japanese lives.

The point isn't that America is "The Great Satan" (which some people think), but we shouldn't act like we are the moral authority in the world. We need to realize that we are not perfect and then we can better understand our enemies.

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"Masters of War" by Bob Dylan
"When a man assumes public trust, he should consider himself as public property"
-Thomas Jefferson
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein
"One man with courage is a majority"
-Thomas Jefferson

I don't know Garth, seems MasTequila has a pretty good idea about how someone can justify killing civilians for a cause. "Less than what they deserved?"- you realise children would have died in those bombings, pregnant mothers? People that could have done nothing against anyone in their short lives- and that innocents have suffered since, ala fallout? That you condemn these people while asking of them an act you surely don't even begin to comprehend, of a variety we can only hope you're never called on to attempt? Pathetic.

Never mind that they probably had little idea why they were involved in the war, but were no-doubt told everyday that it was for a good cause- probably a repungnent Nationalist one.

Its sad when a person, bound by a national idenity, chain themselves to the failures, faults and wrong-doings of people they've never met, of different times; whose only relation being that they were born/lived within the correct set of imaginary lines. You have no responsibility for these things, yet you still defend those that did.

I don't doubt that the terrorists you hate so find moral justification for what they do, and you can be sure its a similar mixture of false-superiority and an appeal to an imaginary cause- ignoring the common humanity that beats within those unfortunate enough to be their victums, until it is callously snuffed out.

These were war-crimes and acts of terrorism, and people's constant inability to face up to simple truths is disturbing.

I think 1 American life is worth at least 100 of the enemy, so we still owe the Japanese a couple of carpet bombings. They start it we finish is and then we have to justify how we finish it? I think what was done was right then and it is now.

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ABoyNamedSue - Speaking of Crestwoods posts - And then there'll be some link to some page, written in hindu or something, talking about sherpas and A&W root beer, and how George Bush is to blame for some Jewish neo-nazi death camp, run by Elvis Presley, on the far side of the moon that's been busted for killing kittens or something

You have the right to sit here and criticize what was done over 60 years ago because we fought and won WW2. So poke holes in America all you want. Whine and cry over enemy dead, innocent or guilty, I don't care it was war. And yes I can justify their deaths, if 1 American soldier lived because those 200,000 died then it was worth it.

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ABoyNamedSue - Speaking of Crestwoods posts - And then there'll be some link to some page, written in hindu or something, talking about sherpas and A&W root beer, and how George Bush is to blame for some Jewish neo-nazi death camp, run by Elvis Presley, on the far side of the moon that's been busted for killing kittens or something

With the German WWII Army NCO's, when they started training to help build the new German Army, They were incredible soldiers and fine gentlemen, to the best of my knowledge that was the first time in history that there were ever American and German soldiers headquartered on the same post. Those guys were the nicest people you would ever want to meet but they did cheat a little at table tennis, they used paddles with 3/4 inches of foam on one side, you could hammer the ball to them and they would catch it like with a catcher mitt.

No your a part of the blame america First camp. No matter what happens it's America's fault. Why do yall stay hear if America is so bad, anyway. You do know Truman was a Democrat. And his struggles with this decision.

Now imagine someone with an Aethisis like Nobama having to make that decision, what should I do, hmmmm............ better call Pastor, and see what he thinks. Pastor says if they's in Africa or Muslim or Islam, don't bomb, but if they are Italian or Mexicans or Jewish bomb the $hit out of them. There chickens are coming home to roost. Nobama says ok, thank you pastor. I'll bomb Mexico, and Italy, and Isreal.

He was suppose to be killing (*)(*)(*)(*)es from Iran; that's what got his a$$ in trouble.

One life equals one life. Period. A Japanese life is equal to one American life. Just because they were born in the "wrong" country doesn't mean that they are less valuable to mankind.

What makes you worth more than someone else?

How many Muslims would you allow to be killed to save your own life?

Your statements go against everything we hold dear as Americans. You have lost the fundamental purpose and ideals that set into motion our democratic experiment.

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"Masters of War" by Bob Dylan
"When a man assumes public trust, he should consider himself as public property"
-Thomas Jefferson
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein
"One man with courage is a majority"
-Thomas Jefferson