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Old 04-29-2008, 01:19 PM
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Default New SurveyUSA North Carolina Poll: Clinton Pulls Within 5 of Obama

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...3-75c8b25b3435

Obama: 49
Clinton: 44

With about 50% of the registered democrats in NC being black, if Fauxbama can’t win NC rather easily... I’d say its much over for him.

Not that he could win a general election anyway... but still.
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Obama: 49
Clinton: 44

With about 50% of the registered democrats in NC being black, if Fauxbama can’t win NC rather easily... I’d say its much over for him.

Not that he could win a general election anyway... but still.
Please God, Let it McCain vs. Obama.
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http://www.surveyusa.com/client/Poll...3-75c8b25b3435

Obama: 49
Clinton: 44

With about 50% of the registered democrats in NC being black, if Fauxbama can’t win NC rather easily... I’d say its much over for him.

Not that he could win a general election anyway... but still.
Clinton needs to win every state left in the election by 20 points in order to get anywhere near Obama's delegate count. Losing by 5% isn't going to cut it.

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Clinton needs to win every state left in the election by 20 points in order to get anywhere near Obama's delegate count. Losing by 5% isn't going to cut it.
wrong. she needs to win and at least contend in every state. we have seen in these last states the voting electorate that will appear in the general. obama has won only the very far left libby states. he won't win the general election with that, and in fact he can't win.

the superdelegates are starting to endorse clinton, like i have been saying they would start doing for the last 2 weeks.
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wrong. she needs to win and at least contend in every state. we have seen in these last states the voting electorate that will appear in the general. obama has won only the very far left libby states. he won't win the general election with that, and in fact he can't win.

the superdelegates are starting to endorse clinton, like i have been saying they would start doing for the last 2 weeks.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...narrows_s.html

http://www.politickeraz.com/evanbrow...-superdelegate

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...uper-delegate/

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...pts-for-obama/

I don't think they're endorsing Clinton like you would make it seem. Easley I know but what other superdelegates are you referring to.
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wrong. she needs to win and at least contend in every state. we have seen in these last states the voting electorate that will appear in the general. obama has won only the very far left libby states. he won't win the general election with that, and in fact he can't win.

the superdelegates are starting to endorse clinton, like i have been saying they would start doing for the last 2 weeks.
Far left libby states? Like Lousiana, and Nebraska, and Alabama, and Missouri?

Go to CNN's delegate program and have Clinton win every state by 20 points.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/...egate.counter/

This still leaves her with a deficit of around 60 delegates in the ridiculously rosy best case scenario. If the super delegates overturn the will of the people I will not vote democrat in 2008, and neither will many others. The super delegates know this, so they will not attempt to overturn the will of the people by voting for Clinton.


It's over, Clinton needs to stop running.
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Democrats are the ones voting......many/most of the states Obama has won he would lose in the GE.
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Democrats are the ones voting......many/most of the states Obama has won he would lose in the GE.
Then I assume all the McCainiacs want Obama to win the nomination, given that he has no shot to win the GE.

I expect you all to start supporting Obama for the nomination, since you're so confident that he can't beat McCain.

After all, why would anybody want a great speaker and leader when they could vote for a dull old man (who is in bed with the Party of Hate) who will continue our failed path?

If McCain really beats Obama, it only proves we're a nation of idiots. We'd be giving up the chance to have one of the best leaders of our time in the White House (and instead, elect a leader who barely knows where he is). That would be sad to miss out on the opportunity to put the next JFK in office.

Never in my three decades on this planet, have I've seen a candidate, like Obama, that has the leadership that we could all get behind (the closest thing we had was Bill Clinton, but even he lacks the heart and soul of Obama). This is a once in a lifetime chance to have a true leader and one-of-a-kind political talent lead us.

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Then I assume all the McCainiacs want Obama to win the nomination, given that he has no shot to win the GE.
Either or it doesn't matter to most on the right.
Obama is easy Hillary is a little harder but McCain can/will beat either.

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