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Old 05-06-2008, 07:09 AM
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1.Lack of experience.
2.Lack of Merit
At first, these were my only problems with the man. However, after current events unfolded:

3. Inability to own up to past issues.
4. Considers the public as "stupid," in regards to those past issues.
5. Hasn't proved to me that he's willing to defend this country, no matter what.
6. Has become more socialist than even Her Socialistness, The Hildabeast.
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Old 05-06-2008, 09:59 AM
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Default Not enough experience

I dont think he has enough experience (at this time) but would like to see him as vice president, and running in eight years.

That would also give Michelle Obama adequate time to figure out where she stands in all of this. I just dont follow her.

I am a Hillary supporter. I think with Hillary we get two-for-the-price-of-one.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:39 PM
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He is a demagogue. He wants to establish an authoritarian state where no one is poor, no matter how lazy, where everyone has healthcare, regardless of whether or not they want to pay for it. He is a populist, and tells what people want (such as hope) so that he can get elected, regardless of whether what he says is true. He is a socialist, and has openly admitted to wanting to ruin the economy "for the purpose of fairness." He wants your money. He's anti-American. Hamas openly supports him. His economic policies are not policies, they're attempts to get elected. He wants people to be dependent on the government for their wellbeing so that they will continue to support his regime and won't elect him out of office. Basically, he is a multi-culturist, anti-militant, internationalist Hitler, and someone try to prove me wrong.
Now did he really say that he wanted to "ruin the economy". If you show me the quote I will admit defeat. He's anti american. All I can say is PROVE IT. Hamas supports him. So do we judge a person not on who they are or their policies but based on who supports them? Well Rush Limbaugh has technically supported Hillary Clinton. You don't judge someone based on who supports them. Thats stupid, naive, and ignorant. His economic policies are not policies. Well a policy is a policy. It's really tough these days to have a plan and use it to get you elected, but for it not to be a policy. He wants people to be dependent on him so he isnt elected out of office. Paranoid schizophrenia? Nothing, NOTHING, you have said is legitimate as you have NOTHING to base it on. And, I am pretty sure that being a multi culturalist has nothing to do with what you are saying. AT ALL. Anti-militant. Nope. He said he's not against using military force, but hes against using it stupidly. Internationalist Hitler. You're a joke. Hitler killed 11 million people. How many has Obama killed? Hitler eliminated rights little by little until people had nothing. If you can show me any ONE legitimate parallel between the two, I will be SHOCKED and AMAZED. Oh, and I am confident in saying I just proved you wrong.
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Now did he really say that he wanted to "ruin the economy". If you show me the quote I will admit defeat. He's anti american. All I can say is PROVE IT. Hamas supports him. So do we judge a person not on who they are or their policies but based on who supports them? Well Rush Limbaugh has technically supported Hillary Clinton. You don't judge someone based on who supports them. Thats stupid, naive, and ignorant. His economic policies are not policies. Well a policy is a policy. It's really tough these days to have a plan and use it to get you elected, but for it not to be a policy. He wants people to be dependent on him so he isnt elected out of office. Paranoid schizophrenia? Nothing, NOTHING, you have said is legitimate as you have NOTHING to base it on. And, I am pretty sure that being a multi culturalist has nothing to do with what you are saying. AT ALL. Anti-militant. Nope. He said he's not against using military force, but hes against using it stupidly. Internationalist Hitler. You're a joke. Hitler killed 11 million people. How many has Obama killed? Hitler eliminated rights little by little until people had nothing. If you can show me any ONE legitimate parallel between the two, I will be SHOCKED and AMAZED. Oh, and I am confident in saying I just proved you wrong.
Please, go to my post on page 3 of this thread (the one with the YouTube video) and skip to about 3:40. He might not actually have said he wants to ruin the economy, but he admits it then and there. (in a way that spins the question so it appears that he is everything people consider "good")

Obama is a socialist. Hitler was a socialist.
Obama supports a large government. Hitler supported a large government.
Obama supports increased funds for public education. Hitler supported increased funds for public education.
Obama supports increased old age welfare. Hitler supported increased old age welfare.
Obama has a theory that his race is being oppressed by another. Hitler had a theory that his race was being oppressed by another.
Obama supports equal rights and obligations for all citizens. Hitler supported equal rights and obligations for all citizens.
Obama supports the nationalization of major industries. Hitler supported the nationalization of major industries.
Obama supports taking corporate profits and regulating corporations. Hitler supported taking corporate profits and regulating corporations.

I could go on for a while, but the only real difference is that Obama is not violent, he is multiculturist, not a racial supremest, and that Obama is internationalist, not nationalist.

Hitler was also more radical than Obama, who is still pretty radical.
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That would also give Michelle Obama adequate time to figure out where she stands in all of this. I just dont follow her.
I'm sorry...I just don't understand why anyone is taking Michelle Obama seriously. She comes off to me as a greedy little hoochie-wannabe who just wants all the bling and notoriety of being "first lady."
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Why would you nlot vote for Obama?

What is the primary reason that you are against Obama ?

Is it race ?
His skin color ? Is it too light ? Too dark ?
His political positions and if so what specifically ?
The fact that he is a Christian?
His gender ?
His patriotism ? If so specifically what ?
Is it because he cannot bowl to save his life ?
I am curious because I am not against Obama I am just for McCain.
Your obviously a republican and if not, sorry, however, you titled this thread the virulent anti-obamista's??? The republican party and now the media, particulary, msnbc ,particularly Keith Olberfman, who now is so obviously sexist, also move on.org, Huffington , have projected more virulent anti=Hillary views than for any other candidate in history that has run for president, and in the media's case, they're attacking a member of their own party.
ObaMA is a fraud and completely disengenous for many reasons stated here in this thread by other posters. He continually talks down to the lower income voters, clinging to faith and now the gas tax won't benefit anyone, because it's only about 30 dollars. Oh yeah, try telling that to the the low income voters who consider 30 dollars a lot of money.
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Why would you nlot vote for Obama?

What is the primary reason that you are against Obama ?
He's a commie.


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Is it race ?
He's half white.

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His skin color ? Is it too light ? Too dark ?
Too liberal.


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His political positions and if so what specifically ?
He's a communist.


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The fact that he is a Christian?
He's no Christian.


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His gender ?
The fact that he's a homo has no bearing on my vote.


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His patriotism ?
He's no patriot of the US. Africa....maybe.



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If so specifically what ?
He's a commie.


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What do you expect, he's half black!


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I am curious because I am not against Obama I am just for McCain.
I am against both of them. They're all commies, Hillary included.
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Why would you nlot vote for Obama?

What is the primary reason that you are against Obama ?

Is it race ?
His skin color ? Is it too light ? Too dark ?
His political positions and if so what specifically ?
The fact that he is a Christian?
His gender ?
His patriotism ? If so specifically what ?
Is it because he cannot bowl to save his life ?
I am curious because I am not against Obama I am just for McCain.
Inexperience

No major accomplishments worthy of voting for him for President

Claims he is above the usual politics but has played the game as good as any of the others

I'm very troubled by his associations and his explanations for not speaking out and taking on the people around him promoting hate
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Inexperience

No major accomplishments worthy of voting for him for President

Claims he is above the usual politics but has played the game as good as any of the others

I'm very troubled by his associations and his explanations for not speaking out and taking on the people around him promoting hate
That always bothers me. I'm against Obama, but not for that reason.

What kind of experience did Bush have before becoming President of the United States?
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First, I just don't think he has a clue. I love how the candidates throw out these great ideas, but don't have a clue how much they will cost or how they will pay for them. The only reason Obama is going to win is becuase blacks will vote for him no matter what he says. If you are a successful, educated person that takes care of your responsibilites you don't want an Obama in office, but if you are behind on our bills, can't find a job becuase you haven't educated yourself, and can't make your mortgage then by all means let the rest of us successful people fix your problems.
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