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Old 05-08-2008, 11:52 AM
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Actual people with actual votes? What does that have to do with the Democratic Party??
There was this thing called an "election" on tuesday.

It quieted down alot of the nonsense talking-points you're repeating today.


Moreover, it must be fun to let Florida decide your nominee for you.

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He will win the deomcratic nomination that was obvious for months, but he will lose come november.
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There was this thing called an "election" on tuesday.

It quieted down alot of the nonsense talking-points you're repeating today.


Moreover, it must be fun to let Florida decide your nominee for you.
Yo Junior, the Stuperdelegates have not yet spoken!!! The question will remain until the Grand Poobas of the party decide who the candidate will be, while naive little voters anxiously await the party elite telling them what is good for them!
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There was this thing called an "election" on tuesday.

It quieted down alot of the nonsense talking-points you're repeating today.


Moreover, it must be fun to let Florida decide your nominee for you.
I like our nominee! He is the only centrist candidate in the general race, no matter who the Superdelegates decide to put up against him. Hillary- militant and divisive, Obama- Militant, racist, and a do nothing to boot!
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Isn't it Interesting? In the eight weeks or so I've been here, I've read that Obama is tanking, losing, going to lose to clinton, on thread after thread; the day after all of those crystal ball readings are revealed as utterly proven nonsense, it's really quiet here.

Now, I understand, their is a factor called "Real life" that impacts the day-to-day events on a message board, but it's pretty revealing that those who were so very sure this thing would go to Clinton found something else to do with their down time than visit this site.

This is harbinger of things to come. Weeks on weeks of trash, and then when a little thing called "actual people" making "actual votes" things will quiet down.

We are witnessing an end to an age of incredbily nasty, petty politics, folks.


And it's just in time, because this country has a lot of work to do.
I think you'll be getting a dose of "real life" "real soon," focal. Obama got 90% of the black vote, true. (They are about 13% to 15% of the population nationally) And he gets the elitist liberal votes. BUT he does NOT get the blue collar white vote and that would be necessary for him to even have a chance in the general election. I think you'll see a lot of those switching to McCain (seeing as how he's a semi Democrat anyway). Either that or they'll stay home. Either way, Obama looses.
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Either that or they'll stay home.
That's got to be your hope...

The truth is, the unions will get out the blue-collar support, and most, at least 75% of Clinton supporters will vote for Obama.

That should be more than enough, considering that Obama has more votes than any candidate, so far.

If I were you, I'd be worried about your folks staying home, what with the "liberal" or, at least, formerly moderate McCain.

We know the Obama folks will be there.

And if Clinton's on the ticket, expect to see them clamoring to vote.


Your candidate, on the otherhand, excites nobody, and represents very little change from the current president.

Time will tell, of course.

For now, though, Obama is very much in the game, leading in fact. It was nice to see a one day reprieve from "He's done" as so many conservatives have asserted over the last few weeks.
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Other than one of our most prolific posters getting temporarily banned, I see no difference.
Prolific and Banned?

How controversial.

Today is largely back to normal, with some new folks dumping old talking points...

But, it's results that matter.
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That's got to be your hope...

The truth is, the unions will get out the blue-collar support, and most, at least 75% of Clinton supporters will vote for Obama.

That should be more than enough, considering that Obama has more votes than any candidate, so far.

If I were you, I'd be worried about your folks staying home, what with the "liberal" or, at least, formerly moderate McCain.

We know the Obama folks will be there.

And if Clinton's on the ticket, expect to see them clamoring to vote.


Your candidate, on the otherhand, excites nobody, and represents very little change from the current president.

Time will tell, of course.

For now, though, Obama is very much in the game, leading in fact. It was nice to see a one day reprieve from "He's done" as so many conservatives have asserted over the last few weeks.
It was more than just conservatives. A lot of Democrats said the same thing. Here's what Paul Begala said...Obama couldn't win with just "eggheads and African-Americans."

"On Tuesday night, we mentioned the dustup between two Democratic pundits, Ms. Brazile and Mr. Begala, who engaged in a prime-time debate about the coalitions being built by Mr. Obama or Mrs. Clinton. Mr. Begala, a Clinton supporter, said the party could not win in November with just “eggheads and African-Americans,” that the party could not ignore white middle-class voters. Ms. Brazile, who said she was not “undecided but undeclared” when it came to her choice for a candidate, shot back that Mr. Begala’s notions were dividing the party.

Then Ms. Hillary said this as she further injected the "race issue" in the Democrat race and speaking about the new polls:

"“I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on,” she said in the interview, citing an article by The Associated Press. It “found how Senator Obama’s support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me.”
“There’s a pattern emerging here,” she said.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...white-support/
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Conservatives are afraid of this nomination ending because they know McCain doesn't stand a chance against Obama.
Now that is truly Funny!!!!!
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Prolific and Banned?


But, it's results that matter.
Of which you have none to report, as the general election has not yet been held!
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