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Old 05-08-2008, 12:21 PM
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Then it is up to you to offer evidence of this sinister allegation...
Actually, he wants everybody to have access to health insurance. He won't force anybody into a national insurance program, but a national program will exist that people can chose to take part in. He's not talking about forcing anybody to do anything.
So, no evidence of authoritarianism, there.
Except that you've completely confused Obama's healthcare plan, with Hillary's.
So, no dice.
Regulation does not equal authoritarianism.
Secret courts; warrantless searches, secret torture; those are signs of authoritarianism, and things McCain/GOP supports.
Authoritarianism has to be secret? Wow, that's news to me. There is virtually no difference in the two healthcare plans. Your taxes are going to pay for even if you don't get the benefits, but that would be retarded. And I knew McCain was and authoritarian liberal but I never knew he supported secret courts, warrantless searches, and secret torture. This is just some crack-pot liberal conspiracy and I'm surprised it wasn't on Rev. Wright's list of conspiracies such as the US gov inventing HIV as a tool of genocide and 9/11 being the government's fault.

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Republicans actually spend more. They tax the middle class more, and it's republicans who have increased the national debt.
Closet liberals in the Republican party spend more. True conservatives support small government, low taxes, a balanced budget, and limited regulation of the economy. Liberals like to spend money on domestic plans, tax people to get money for these domestic plans, and regulate the economy for the good of all.

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It seems you use the term "authoritarian" for any government regulation.
It seems your definition is Nazism and nothing else.

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By your standards, every president of this country has been "authoritarian."
Every president since Wilson my friend. G Washington was not, and neither were Jefferson or Cleavland.

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In this way, your definition and your claim is false.
Your definition and your claim are false. Now prove me wrong.
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Old 05-08-2008, 12:24 PM
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Cutting taxes for the middle class.
He also supports increasing the capital gains tax to 28%

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He believes in reproductive rights, and doesn't want an authoritarian government to tell women what to do with their wombs.
One of the few responsibilities of the government is to protect the right to life of every individual in the country.

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Not only is McCain authoritarian too, it's arguable that he's much more authoritarian.
I know he's authoritarian (he's a closet liberal), but prove that he's more authoritarian.
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she won Texas, California, New York! I think obama should drop out!
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OF COURSE this country is not ready for a black president! Only 12.8% or so of us Americans are BLACK! There are many in the so called "Black" community and in our media who want us to believe they are in greater number but they are one of the smallest minorities, like asians and (sadly) native americans.The idea that a minority in ANY country could possibly represent the majority of that country is simply unfounded and fallacious. Talk about misrepresentation! Most Americans are so called "white", coming to this country from all over the world, but especially European countries. Of these "whites," most are actually women, which outnumber men throughout the world. YOU WANT REPRESENTATION for most Americans? The largest specific gender and "racial" group would therefore be WHITE WOMEN. Get a clue, people. All this talk of Obama being the face of America is simple subversive Black-Supremist propaganda. Don't buy it.

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Further information People QuickFacts USA
Population, 2006 estimate 299,398,484

Population, percent change, April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2006 6.4%

Population, 2000 281,421,906

Persons under 5 years old, percent, 2006 6.8%

Persons under 18 years old, percent, 2006 24.6%

Persons 65 years old and over, percent, 2006 12.4%

Female persons, percent, 2006 50.7%

White persons, percent, 2006 (a) 80.1%

Black persons, percent, 2006 (a) 12.8%

American Indian and Alaska Native persons, percent, 2006 (a) 1.0%

Asian persons, percent, 2006 (a) 4.4%

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander, percent, 2006 (a) 0.2%

Persons reporting two or more races, percent, 2006 1.6%

Persons of Hispanic or Latino origin, percent, 2006 (b) 14.8%

White persons not Hispanic, percent, 2006 66.4%

Living in same house in 1995 and 2000, pct 5 yrs old & over 54.1%

Foreign born persons, percent, 2000 11.1%

Language other than English spoken at home, pct age 5+, 2000 17.9%

High school graduates, percent of persons age 25+, 2000 80.4%

Bachelor's degree or higher, pct of persons age 25+, 2000 24.4%

Persons with a disability, age 5+, 2000 49,746,248

Mean travel time to work (minutes), workers age 16+, 2000 25.5



Housing units, 2006 126,316,181

Homeownership rate, 2000 66.2%

Housing units in multi-unit structures, percent, 2000 26.4%

Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2000 $119,600



Households, 2000 105,480,101

Persons per household, 2000 2.59

Median household income, 2004 $44,334

Per capita money income, 1999 $21,587

Persons below poverty, percent, 2004 12.7%


Business QuickFacts USA
Private nonfarm establishments, 2005 7,499,702

Private nonfarm employment, 2005 116,317,003

Private nonfarm employment, percent change 2000-2005 2.0%

Nonemployer establishments, 2005 20,392,068

Total number of firms, 2002 22,974,655

Black-owned firms, percent, 2002 5.2%

American Indian and Alaska Native owned firms, percent, 2002 0.9%

Asian-owned firms, percent, 2002 4.8%

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander owned firms, percent, 2002 0.1%

Hispanic-owned firms, percent, 2002 6.8%

Women-owned firms, percent, 2002 28.2%
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Women are voting for Hillary Im voting for Hillary Im irish, german, mexican, french

Hispanics, germans are voting for Hillary, or Mccain

how in the heck is obama winning when he clearly is not
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Women are voting for Hillary Im voting for Hillary Im irish, german, mexican, french

Hispanics, germans are voting for Hillary, or Mccain

how in the heck is obama winning when he clearly is not
You racist! How dare you question the mighty Obama. Anyone who does must be a racist!
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Im not racist I knew two black guys tommy young, brittain jenkins
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We need a president who would:
1.) limit the government's responsibilities to the following
a.) Protect the rights, life, liberty, and property, of all the individuals in the nation.
b.) Defend the country from foreign or domestic invasion or subversion.
c.) Protect the free market from the forces of monopolies, and regulate those natural monopolies whose existence is beneficial but nature is controlling.
d.) Provide a system that represents the people, so that the power of the government is put in check.
e.) Ensure that no one person or group in the government becomes so powerful as to prevent any of the previous purposes.
2.) Cut back the power of the president.
3.) Cut back the power of the federal government in general.
4.) Cut taxes so as to stimulate the economy, therefore bringing in more money with which the surplus would be used to eventually retire the national debt.

If there was a black presidential candidate who would do all of this, then America would be ready for him. I do not agree with Obama when he says that race is an issue we need to deal with. Race should not be an issue. We need a president who thinks like that.

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Then it is up to you to offer evidence of this sinister allegation...



Actually, he wants everybody to have access to health insurance. He won't force anybody into a national insurance program, but a national program will exist that people can chose to take part in. He's not talking about forcing anybody to do anything.

So, no evidence of authoritarianism, there.



Except that you've completely confused Obama's healthcare plan, with Hillary's.

So, no dice.



Regulation does not equal authoritarianism.

Secret courts; warrantless searches, secret torture; those are signs of authoritarianism, and things McCain/GOP supports.



Republicans actually spend more. They tax the middle class more, and it's republicans who have increased the national debt.


It seems you use the term "authoritarian" for any government regulation.

By your standards, every president of this country has been "authoritarian."

In this way, your definition and your claim is false.
I can guarantee this guy watches Fox News and has a Sheppard smith mug next to his Mission Accomplished banner. I say this because his post is the exact opposite of REALITY ! Just like Fox News.
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I can guarantee this guy watches Fox News and has a Sheppard smith mug next to his Mission Accomplished banner. I say this because his post is the exact opposite of REALITY ! Just like Fox News.
That's such an understatement. This guys even farther away from the truth than Fox news is.
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