That's because the most obstructionist minority in congressional history has gummed up the works.

You're right: America's not stupid. They know who's keeping us in Iraq, who's preventing healthcare reform, and who the all time champs of wasteful spending are.

Boy are you brainwashed. The minority is keeping the majority down?
That is just ridiculous!

The change claim I can deal with. Because that's a loose term.

What I think is funny is any of these candidates claiming foreign policy experience. Over the course of this campaign we've lost Joe Biden and Bill Richardson- two people with real foreign policy experience and knowledge.
Now we have people squabbling over whether playing an alleged supporting role in a spouse's foreign negotiations, traveling abroad through childhood, or fighting as a soldier is "foreign policy experience".
It can be argued that any one of these things brings something extra to the White House... and I don't want to undermine those things...
But come on! None of them are actually going to be capable of making unilaterally the kinds of foreign policy decisions any more than the average candidate... which is fine, as that is what cabinets are for... and frankly I don't trust a president who thinks he/she can make unilateral foreign policy decisions (even Bush used a cabinet... albeit a cabinet stacked with neo-cons in group-think mode).

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It should be noted that Obama serves on the same committee as Joe Biden.

Being brainwashed means ignoring facts.

Facts like, this is the most obstructionist minority, ever:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/1...m_n_77704.html

Only a political zealot would call opposition obstruction! It would be very ineffective unless some Democrats are aligning with the minority.

But not for nearly as long.
Now frankly i think Obama has shown quite an understanding of foreign policy... and at least knows a good idea when he hears it (I caught that in early debates... he tended to stick with whatever Biden said, before that became the norm for all the candidates... if Biden only had charisma). And his knowledge seems to have grown.

But I wouldn't say that his "experience" is anything amazing.
But that said, it's comparable to Clinton's or McCain's IMO.

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All true.

There is no way of having "on the job" experience for the office of president.

What if we elected Adolf Hitler to the presidency? Would you liberal be opposed to an obstructionist minority in Congress then? I personally don't see much of a difference between Hitler and Obama or Hilary, so I think an obstructionist minority is usually a good thing, unless like during reconstruction the democrats try to reinstate all their slave codes on the freedmen.

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that thing on your neck makes for an excellent hat stand, however

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