boy oh boy what crawled up your ass this morning? full of insults whew luckily I don't give a crap what you think hehehehehehe

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your inability to prepare a response describing Obama's fiscal irresponsibility is duly noted.
your surrender is accepted

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no surrender just a small retreat , I do have a life , chores and etc but never fear my liberal friend I will return so you can abuse me some more!!!! Have a nice day!

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You've been told this before. Raising capital gains rates to pay for his other plans when in fact, raising capital gains rates will bring in less revenue from capital gains. It's like asking for a pay cut so you can pay for your new car.

I don't recall a single poster backing Bush's spending.

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Democrats hate Debt? That is a lie! They hate debt if they didn't get to say what we spent the loan money on.

Obama the Socialist wants to punish people who work hard by raising the tax on social security FICA for high earners,
In my opinion the same people who invest and create jobs,
I have already mentioned the capital gains tax which affects anyone who invests in the market
here is a little quote I found very telling of Barry Obama's agenda
Obama replied, “You know, I think the definitions are always a little bit rough”
and said “if you’re making $100,000 a year or less, then you’re pretty solidly middle class…On the other hand,
if you’re making more than $100,000 and certainly if you’re making more than $200,000 or $250,000,
you’re doing pretty well.”
So he really wants to punish Americans who do well which again will strangle the economy,
“I will raise CEO taxes,” Obama told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer on “The Situation Room.” I bet all the taxes will be passed on to the consumer .
So please tell me how this will help America?


heres the interview with Tim softballs Russett


The real interview: Decide who is wishy-washy and who doesnt provide clarity.
When will CNN post such interviews to show candidates real face?

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MR. RUSSERT: But, Senator, you said last year—earlier this year that everything should be on the table for Social Security,
including looking at raising retirement age, indexing benefits, and then suddenly you said,
“No, no. Those aren’t off—on the table; I’m taking them off the table.”

SEN. OBAMA: Tim, that’s not—that’s not what I said.
What I said was that I will convene a meeting as president where we discuss all of the options that are available.
That doesn’t mean that as president I will not have strong opinions on how we should move forward.
And when you look at how we should approach Social Security, I believe that cutting retire—cutting benefits
is not the right answer. I meet too many seniors all across the country who are struggling with the limited
Social Security benefits that they have. That raising the retirement age is not the best option,
particularly when we’ve got people who ware still in manufacturing. By the time they’re 67, their bodies, oftentimes…


MR. RUSSERT: But in May you said they would be on the table.

SEN. OBAMA: Well, when I—I am going to be listening to any ideas that are presented,
but I think that the best way to approach this is to adjust the cap on the payroll tax so that people
like myself are paying a little bit more and the people who are in need are protected. That is the option that I will
be pushing forward. But, look, even as president I’m not going to be able to get this done by myself,
and that means that I’m going to be listening to any other ideas out there. It doesn’t mean, though,
that I’m not going to have a strong position on it.

MR. RUSSERT: But they would be on the table?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, I will listen to all arguments and the best options,
finding out what is it going to take to close that gap. But what I’m going to continue to insist on is that the
reason we need to fix it now is precisely to protect our senior citizens and maintain not only Social Security as a
social insurance program, but also make sure that the benefits are sufficient so that we don’t have seniors in need.

MR. RUSSERT: When you say “raise the cap,” right now you pay payroll tax on the first $97,500.
If you increase that for people to pay Social Security tax on their full income, about 10 million people,
some could pay as much as $5,000 a year more. How is that going to play in November?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, it—you know, I have not specified exactly how we would structure it.
He really has no plan does he??

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You forgot your link, Sub.

He has a habit of doing this. Why can't he listen to ideas now?

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social security taxes 6.2% of your wages along with the matching 6.2% contribution of the employer. in 2008 the employee tax and matching contribution stop after the first $102,000 of wages. additionally, 1.45% of your wages is withheld and the employer makes a matching 1.45% contribution to the Medicare program, making the total withholdings at 7.65% (6.2% OASDI and 1.45% Medicare). however, all wages are subject to the Medicare tax; there is no ceiling.
Obama is proposing to make the social security requirement one without a ceiling, just as Medicare is without one. let's see why:

that professional athelete, CEO, entertainer, whoever makes say $10 million annually. at present the taxpayer pays 6.2% and the employer pays an additional 6.2% for a total of 12.4%, into the social security fund. however, that tax is payable only on the first $102,000. so the combined social security contribution is $12,648. That represents only 0.12648% of the high earner's total income.
if that high earner paid at the same rate you and i do, on the total income we make, then that taxpayers combined social security contribution would increase from $12,648 to $1,240,000. The social security fund - you know the one everyone says is inadequate to fulfill the need for those who have yet to retire - would increase its holdings by $1,227,352 annually from this cap elimination on one high earner. That singular action, payable only by high earners, will salvage the social security program. why should those in the best position to pay, those who most benefit from America's greatness, not pay their fair share, 12.4% like the rest of us rather than 0.12648% shown above for this hypothetical high wage earner?

from what i see, Obama is on the right track with this approach. i would expect those who earn more than $102,000 and who look after their self interest before the nation's to object. similarly, it would not surprise me to find that the unthinking lemmings, those who voted against their self interest and put the shrub in office for two terrible terms, would also remain consistent and object to policy that worked in their favor. why stop your losing streak?

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"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do." Joseph Stalin

Life is a sexually transmitted disease having a 100% fatality rate

I hate to repeat myself but you are wrong that raising the capital gains tax will bring in less money.

I am an Obama delegate in Maine so if you would like to know why he has supporters in Maine, feel free to ask!

Ooh! Ooh! Me! Me!..

...is it because he promises "free" stuff to the bottom feeders of society, by raping the successfully wealthy folks, and punishing them for their achievements?

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