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Look on page 50 of that blueprint and you will see that he says "I will finish the fight against Al Qaeda" and that "He will end the war responsibly by bringing our troops home within 16 months" on the same page. Do you really think that he means to surrender completely against Al Qaeda or to finish them off in 16 months? Both of those seem impractical, and they are within 3 sentences of each other. And I am not a neo-con, I am a true conservative, who believes firmly in everyone's right to life, liberty, and property.
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All of that can be paid for with funds diverted out of Iraq. Over 4 years, we'll save enough money by leaving Iraq to pay for all that and have money left over. If you want to whine about new government spending, try whining about the 3 TRILLION dollars down the drain in Iraq.
I GUARANTEE you that Obama's not that stupid, as to pull out of Iraq, before they're ready to fend for themselves. That would be a foreign policy nightmare, and he knows it.

So where does this leave you? With a weak candidate who has already spelled out 800 billion in BRAND NEW spending, AND continued expenditures in Iraq. You democrats are so gullible.

Now if he scrapped 100% of those socialist policies he's got lined up, AND pulled out of Iraq, AND cut back on entitlement programs AND ended wasteful government spending...THEN you can talk about how he wants to put America back in black. Until then, he's just a shister looking to dig the country deeper in a hole.
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Shine Light on Earmarks and Pork Barrel Spending: Obama’s Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks
Act will shed light on all earmarks by disclosing the name of the legislator who asked for each earmark, along
with a written justification, 72 hours before they can be approved by the full Senate.

Did Obama Earmark $1 Million For Wife?
Update: From the Campaign Spot to NRO's Byron York. Looks like Daddy-O brought home the bacon so Mommy-O could bring home even more bacon, too.

"In 2006, the Chicago Tribune reported that Mrs. Obama’s compensation at the University of Chicago Hospital, where she is a vice president for community affairs, jumped from $121,910 in 2004, just before her husband was elected to the Senate, to $316,962 in 2005, just after he took office." Looks like that raise was worth it.

h/t Amanda Carpenter - This will definitely be developing, as they say. Obama's earmarks released - and one early look:

Obama Requested $1 Million For Construction Of A New Hospital Pavilion At The University Of Chicago. In 2006, Obama requested that the University of Chicago receive $1 million to support its Construction of New Hospital Pavilion. For more than 75 years, the University of Chicago Hospitals (UCH) has provided state of the art medical care on the South Side of Chicago.

Here's the planned pavilion. Enter Michelle Obama, the poor old Ivy League grad who has never caught a break from mean old America, or been proud of it until now!

May 9, 2005

Michelle Obama has been appointed vice president for community and external affairs at the University of Chicago Hospitals. Obama, who was previously the executive director for community affairs at the Hospitals, will be responsible for all programs and initiatives that involve the relationship between the Hospitals and the community. She will also take over management of the Hospitals' business diversity program.

Prior to joining the Hospitals, Obama worked as an associate dean of student services for the University of Chicago where she developed the University's first office of community service. She came to the Hospitals in 2002 and quickly built up programs for community relations, neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity and minority contracting.
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Bankruptcy Reform
Obama will reform our bankruptcy laws to protect working people, ban executive bonuses for bankrupt
companies, and require disclosure of all pension investments.
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I think this is unfair
Protect Homeownership and Crack Down on Mortgage Fraud
Create a Universal Mortgage Credit: Obama will create a 10 percent universal mortgage credit to provide
tax relief to homeowners who do not itemize. This credit will provide an average of $500 to 10 million
homeowners, the majority of whom earn less than $50,000 per year.
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so he wants to tax more I hate this it stiffles growth
Obama believes that the first place to look for ways to strengthen Social Security is the payroll tax system.
Currently, the Social Security payroll tax applies to only the first $97,500 a worker makes. Obama supports
increasing the maximum amount of earnings covered by Social Security and he will work with Congress and
the American people to choose a payroll tax reform package that will keep Social Security solvent for at least
the next half century.
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even for John McCain
Prevent Age Discrimination
Obama will fight job discrimination for aging employees by strengthening the Age Discrimination in
Employment Act and empowering the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to prevent all forms of
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Create Automatic Workplace Pensions
Obama’s retirement security plan will automatically enroll workers in a workplace pension plan. Under his
plan, employers who do not currently offer a retirement plan, will be required to enroll their employees in
a direct-deposit IRA account that is compatible to existing direct-deposit payroll systems. Employees may
opt-out if they choose. Experts estimate that this program will increase the savings participation rate for low
and middle-income workers from its current 15 percent level to around 80 percent.

why does the employer have to take this on ?
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Repeal Bush Tax Cuts for the Wealthy
Obama is committed to repealing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.


what exactly is his stand on who is wealthy?
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Repeal Bush Tax Cuts for the Wealthy
Obama is committed to repealing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans.


what exactly is his stand on who is wealthy?
See this post: Why Obama's Policies Will Ruin the Economy
It's in the beginning of the video so don't skip like I said to in the post.
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