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Old 05-09-2008, 02:11 PM
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Ya, I haven't seen that one, but we're being bombarded with both Hillary and Obama ads 24/7 - I don't even live in Oregon, but I get the Portland feeds. That one you posted is the best so far, and none of them have been that bad.

For awhile there, it was Obama only - over-the-top positive "we can do it" b.s. In the last couple of weeks, Hillary's spending $$$, although he's way ahead. I'm expecting them both to go much more negative until the OR primary in a couple of weeks.
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Obama will win in Oregon. But thats all he will win from now on.
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It doesn't matter since there are no winner take all states as far as I know!!!!
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Yes it does.
Neither of them can win period without being picked by the Superdelegates or one of them dropping out.

Hillary's base is rather broad and workable in the realities of a General Election against McCain.

Obama's are not outside of a Far Left College full of Blacks.
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I doesn't really at this point DuH, as even if he got 100% of pledged from now on he can't win by that alone- been that way since around Texas. If you're suggesting that the system is unfortunately undemocratic you're right, but if the supers go with whoever gets the majority of pledged, then it works out democratically anyway. It'll happen, he'll get 33 more pledged by the 20th, and that'll be it.

Heh, Obama has far more support than just College educated and black people, we all know this primary season can more accurately depict voter enthusiasm than hard numbers that are going to translate into the GE- its just too distorted by Hillary's presence and campaign heat-of-the-moment, its different when her supporters will have to choose between Obama and McCain.

160 delegates to go, plus they're starting their 'vote-for-change' national campaign to regester people right up to the GE. I'm audibly confident.

Oh and so much for being "Far Left":

"...Nor can America compete simply by erecting trade barriers and raising the minimum wage- unless we're willing to confiscate all the world's computers." -The Audacity of Hope, pg.158, 2008 edition, The Text Publishing Company.

Maybe I'm reading that sentence wrong, maybe hes far left and a hawk.
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Where have I been living all these years? I had no idea there were so many milions and millions of black, far left collegians!
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Silly me I figured the party of the people and every vote counts would prefer the popular vote..


How quaint huh!






Don't forget Michigan and Florida. That is not even close to being over.
As long as those two states are in play as they are Clinton has no reason to and never will quit. All the way to the convention.


In the general election McCain has much much more support amongst whites and hispanics as a general rule. IOW he has the majority and the majority minority against Obama. That could play a big factor in California and perhaps a win in New Jersey.

He also has support of more of the various denominations in US politics.
Obama has 3 in comparison.


McCain has a very distinguished past.
Obama has a 20 year affair with a racist pastor.

Oh and lets not forget shall we about the fact that a good 20-35% of Clinton voters won't vote for him in virtually every state that has a had a primary.



He gets 80-90% of Black votes. While that propels him in the Democrats Nomination process it is a minority minority in the states where he gets alot of that vote ..(Mississippi, South Carolina, etc) they wil go McCain. Even you know that.

If he was as white as Kucinich he'd be where Kucinich is now.


Issues!.... c'mon Obama is a train wreck of higher taxes, socialist BS, idealistic big government baloney, defeat, surrender, talk, appease,..you name it the guy is a walking ad for Far Left College Monthly.



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Where have I been living all these years? I had no idea there were so many milions and millions of black, far left collegians!
Apparantly in a delusional world in which 200,000 *Democrats* voting in the *Democrat Primary* are equatable to the 2,000,000 people who will vote in November... when people who only vote every 4 years come out.

Watch any election coverage they will show you the counties he wins and almost always either it has a large black population, a College, or both.


Wyoming is not going to go for Obama in November..duh.



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