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Old 05-27-2008, 05:44 PM
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what facts could he use he is an empty suit who lies like the rest of them .
Nice rhetoric. Care to contribute something or do you just want to spew out talking points and insults you hear on the television and radio?

www.barackobama.com

There's the empty suit, complete with his detailed policies. Wait, that fills up the suit doesn't it? (*)(*)(*)(*)!
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20 years..

Either he's a liar or the dumbest person on earth. Pick.
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20 years..

Either he's a liar or the dumbest person on earth. Pick.
Neither. You seem to fall into your choices pretty well though.

Feel free to make those claims when you have some substantive evidence that he was there, and then some evidence to show that he agrees with and endorses those stances. Until then, stick to issues. Thanks!
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Nice rhetoric. Care to contribute something or do you just want to spew out talking points and insults you hear on the television and radio?

www.barackobama.com

There's the empty suit, complete with his detailed policies. Wait, that fills up the suit doesn't it? (*)(*)(*)(*)!
he lied , so what huh!! you are just spinning your talking points too. give me a break , The media interest in this is absolutely nil. They're so corrupt they can ignore virtually anything.
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he lied , so what huh!! you are just spinning your talking points too. give me a break , The media interest in this is absolutely nil. They're so corrupt they can ignore virtually anything.
I'm spinning talking points? Where? I've agreed that he should have researched what he was talking about before saying anything, but pointed out that he did have a factual basis.

There's no talking point in what I pointed out.

This story will be dead by the end of the news cycle for the week, but he did himself no favor by bumbling into the news with a negative, did he?
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That's true. His uncle did liberate a camp, however, the camp probably wasn't as well known and symbolic as Auschwitz. He was trying to beef up the story and got caught, or maybe was just mistaken. Better than the Bosnia story and Sir Edmund Hillary stories :P Those were just flat out not true.

A new poll shows that 33 percent of Americans think he is a muslim or don't know his religion. Now problems like this are not solved when a fellow democrat says that he is a Christian, "as far as I know....". The Jews are a little skeptical because of propaganda and lies throughout email. They fear somebody with the name Barack and Hussein and Obama. Barack comes from the Hebrew root meaning "blessed" and is also a common Hebrew name.
beefing up the story is lying ,nice spin whats your next talking point?
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Hey Badger..read Obamas' book?...Whats it called?

He's 46. Meaning 20 years is basically his entire adult life.
He lauded Wirght constantly until it got him in toruble.
Etc etc etc..
No reason to repeat all the evidence its all over the place.

"He never noticed"?
....you cannot possibly be that dense. NOBODY can be that dense.
Thats why Obama is either a liar or the dumbest person on earth.

Or if you prefer-






(I will not accept the amnesiatic routine. So drop it)

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Hey Badger..read Obamas' book?...Whats it called?

He's 46. Meaning 20 years is basically his entire adult life.
He lauded Wirgh tconstantly until it got him in toruble.
Etc etc etc..no reason to repeat al the evidence its all over the place.

"He never noticed"?....you cannot possibly be that dense. NOBODY can be that dense.




(I will not accept the amnesiatic routine. So drop it)
I'd like to see this evidence, because I haven't seen it.

Seems that you like to play by "guilty until proven innocent", eh? Not very fair now is it?

He lauded Wright for bringing him to God. He never said he lauded Wright for hating white people and being crazy. You know, it could just be that Obama doesn't go to church very much, as Wright himself indicated in the press interview that caused Obama to ditch him for good. When Wright got on the stage and acted so shamefully, then Obama dropped him, because he said that's not the guy he knew.

I'm giving McCain benefit of the doubt that he doesn't believe what Hagey and those other wacky pastors believe, and I give Obama the same benefit of the doubt. I also don't think Obama knew of or went to any of those sermons in question.
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Obama: "I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps and the story in our family was is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months," Obama said. "Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain."

In fact, that concentration camp was liberated by Soviet soldiers in 1945.
It was an honest mistake by Obama. His uncle was part of the 89th Infantry Division, which liberated Buchenwald.

Here is a link to the history of the 89th.
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Obama: "I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps and the story in our family was is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months," Obama said. "Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain."

In fact, that concentration camp was liberated by Soviet soldiers in 1945.
As far as I am concerned the SOVIETS liberated nothing all they did was to force a change in who occupied the gulags !!
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