Who? iranians? of coarse not.

Hardly!

And why do you think that is?

Experience is important. Shoving a bunch of black guys into politics wont help with anything especially corruption! Politics shouldn't be subject to your messed up ideas of affirmative action..

They only need to be liked to get the stupid vote. A black person and a woman is a great way to win the stupid vote. But voting for them is.. well.. stupid!

For all the wrong reasons..

Correction all racism is bad but because you hate white people doesn't make it right.. voting for a black president to reduce racism won't work at all its a terrible reason to vote..

'Stable' but not fair.. the poor deserve no proping they need a tough situation to get them moving. Don't feed the lazy. America would be far more fiscaly healthy without that dirty welfare system..

She mentioned nothing about black people so no thats not what she said.

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Not when you suggest people should vote based on race no.

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Ok, so what was your point in asking me if I was Iranian?


The reason.. I said to begin with. Obama has brought them into the political process.

What? Thats not what I advocated at all, and I'm not sure you even remember what your speaking in reference to. Please explain how breaking up political machines is affirmative action.

Do you have a response to my argument that isn't immature?


Whatever, we still have a chance to lead the world again after messing up horribly.

Racism by white people is worse because it is more effective. Whites have been able to oppress all other minorities in America through discrimination. They are both bad, but the one that needs more immediate attention is white racism because it has more capacity for damage.

Poor people are lazy.. right. Without urban renewal America would crumble from the inside out. In the end, it is profitable. That is why we have been doing it since the 30's.


Anyone who votes for him simply because he is black has no business in voting.

Hence all that talk of mine about exit polls. Is it coming together now?

Does 1864 not qualify as always?

Oh I see, arguments you don't agree with are an excuse to act like a child.

just like anyone voting against him because he is black has no business voting?

this thread will get obliterated on this forum

i'll say this though. the world is mostly non-white. a non-white president would have a better time dealing with a world and leaders that are a majority non white.

prove it . this is not a fact it is your opinion . What I will agree with you on is that a qualified Black man would do better , Obama is about as qualified as he is a uniter .. we are going to have big big problems!!!!

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Though I won't because it would make me nauseous, I could make all those arguments that we should vote for Hillary for President. Not only would a woman represent a far larger portion of the population, but think of all the little girls who would feel empowered....

Simply electing a black candidate would not advance anyone unless the man was truly worthy. Electing an empty suit like Barack would set blacks back decades, IMO.

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I did.

I wasn't alive back then I never experienced the realities of that time so I have no idea what I would really think back then.
Neither do you.

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I don't see how any of those apply to a woman candidate actually. Women already vote in almost equal numbers as men, they are not disenfranchised.

Did electing an empty suit like Bush set Evangelicals back?

Actually you addressed none of them, that is why your post was so short. The entirety of your argument was that I was dumb.

Thats a copout. The answer is easy, of course you would not vote for a black man in 1864 because it would start enough civil war. There were extenuating circumstances then, just like there are every election. In a racist nation, race is most certainly a voting issue.

Didn't the 19th amendment come some time after the 14th?

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