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Old 06-15-2008, 10:37 PM
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34 percent does not equal ninety percent, now does it?
Did he make the claim before or after february?

What was the percentage when he made the claim?

Also, you're missing S.2590.

The whole of the analysis is suspect.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:46 PM
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34 percent does not equal ninety percent, now does it?
You are still confusing the words "donations" and "money". I explained it to you once, you'll have to figure it out from here. btw, any relation?





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Old 06-16-2008, 12:46 AM
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Did he make the claim before or after february?

What was the percentage when he made the claim?

Also, you're missing S.2590.

The whole of the analysis is suspect.
It's not *my* analysis, it's factchecks. What they say is that he said:

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We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors
In a Feb.26 debate.

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34 percent of the donations that Obama raised and reported as of Feb. 20 came from donors
Six days. These are the numbers now:

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/donord...ter=A&sortby=4



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You are still confusing the words "donations" and "money". I explained it to you once, you'll have to figure it out from here. btw, any relation?
Where's the word "money"? Did Acelrodscrew up the programming again?

Barack Hussein Obama: "We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50."

The truth: "34 percent of the donations that Obama raised and reported as of Feb. 20 came from donors who gave $200 or less."

You are still confusing the words "donations" and "donations", must be the excessive kool-aid in your blood system. I'd run away from this thread too, if I were you, but first:


Two can play this game. And to think that one actually has some relevance!

34 DOES NOT equal 90, never has... explained that to you once, you'll have to figure it out from there.
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Old 06-16-2008, 02:16 AM
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Yawn. Okay I'll take on the last "LIE"
LMAO!!!


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Read those two statements closely, and basic math will show they don't contradict each other.
U realize that you're asking someone to read, right?


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LMAO!!!
U realize that you're asking someone to read, right?
PROB
Jumping to his defense, huh? You want to read?

These are the two statements for you to read:

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Barack Hussein Obama: "We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50."

The truth: "34 percent of the donations that Obama raised and reported as of Feb. 20 came from donors who gave $200 or less."
1. How are those two quotes alike?
2. How are those two quotes different?
3. How can one reconcile the two?

Hmmm...hope this isn't a "PROB" for you.
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Old 06-16-2008, 03:38 AM
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Jumping to his defense, huh? You want to read?

These are the two statements for you to read:



1. How are those two quotes alike?
2. How are those two quotes different?
3. How can one reconcile the two?

Hmmm...hope this isn't a "PROB" for you.
Exactly.

You're correct.

Can we READ some more?

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I believe Joe is using the word donation correctly. A donation is an act of giving, so whether you give $25 or $1000, it still counts as 1 donation. So a statement saying "$25 million in donations" doesn't necessarily mean 25 million donations.

That being said, the word "donations" is often incorrectly used as a substitute for "donation amount".

If you look at Obama's statement "We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors..." the second, incorrect usage makes more sense in the way the word is used (how do you "raise" an act of giving?). He must have meant to say something more akin to "90 percent of our donations have come from small donors..."

So, can you have 90 percent of donations from small donors yet still get two-thirds of your money from those giving $200 or more? Sure.

Hope this helps clear up the issue. Just poor wording by Obama.
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...So, can you have 90 percent of donations from small donors yet still get two-thirds of your money from those giving $200 or more? Sure.

Hope this helps clear up the issue. Just poor wording by Obama.
Thank you.

I find it funny after 8 years of word-mangling malapropisms from the current white house resident, and the mass forgiveness by the Bushbots - "aw heck, we know what he means!!" that anyone would have the audacity to put Obama's normal conversational impreciseness under an electron microscope.




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[quote=Joe1991;569355]Thank you.

I find it funny after 8 years of word-mangling malapropisms from the current white house resident, and the mass forgiveness by the Bushbots - "aw heck, we know what he means!!" that anyone would have the audacity to put Obama's normal conversational impreciseness under an electron microscope.[quote]


You find it hard to beleive that Bush's opposition places every word he says under a microscope, but Bush supporters will not return the favor to Obamabots?

Seriously?
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You find it hard to beleive that Bush's opposition places every word he says under a microscope, but Bush supporters will not return the favor to Obamabots?
Sir, comparing Bush's poor attempts to form human word-like sounds to Obama's soliloquy is like comparing fresh chocolate-dipped strawberries to bad applesauce.





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