Get Educated About Obama!!!

OOOOOOO · #1 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 03:08 PM

Yes, this is turning the tables on you Obama-bots:

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Portland — OBAMA AND HAMAS

In an April 2008 interview with WABC Radio in New York, Yousef (Hamas' chief political adviser) was asked whether he thought the Palestinian prime minister would be willing to meet with Obama and Clinton before the election. He responded:

Yousef: We don't mind. Actually, we like Mr. Obama, and we hope he will [inaudible] the election. I do believe he is like John Kennedy, a great man with great principles, and he has a vision to change America, to make it in a position to lead the world community, but not with domination and arrogance.

(Yousef is often quoted as saying "we hope he will win the election," but this part of the audio is garbled. "We hope he will win" is a reasonable interpretation.)

OBAMA AND GUNS:

• First, Barack Obama told a group in Chicago he favored a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

• Then, Barack Obama told people in Idaho he was for the 2nd Amendment, in order to get their votes.

• And just this month, Barack Obama accused people in rural places and small towns of being "bitter" people who "cling to guns."

OBAMA AND PAC MONEY:

Obama has vowed not to take money from lobbyists or PAC’s instead he plays the semantics game;

“He does not accept funds from registered federal lobbyists, but he does accept money from spouses of lobbyists, non-lobbying partners who work for lobbying firms or for law firms that do lobbying, ex-lobbyists, and state lobbyists.”- factcheck.org

OBAMA AND OIL MONEY:

"I don’t take money from oil companies."- Barack Obama

Obama accepts no money from oil companies directly (which would be illegal)

In fact, he does accept donations from oil company employees, and he has two oilmen working as "bundlers" for the campaign, collecting donations. In his radio ad he states matters more accurately, saying he's "the only candidate who doesn't take a dime from oil company PACs or lobbyists."- factcheck.org

In a new ad, Obama says, "I don’t take money from oil companies."

Technically, that's true, since a law that has been on the books for more than a century prohibits corporations from giving money directly to any federal candidate. But that doesn’t distinguish Obama from his rivals in the race.

We find the statement misleading:

• Obama has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses.

• Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the presidential hopeful.

George Kaiser, the chairman of Oklahoma-based Kaiser-Francis Oil Co., ranks 68th on the Forbes list of world billionaires. He's listed on Obama's Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for the candidate. Robert Cavnar is president and CEO of Milagro Exploration LLC, an oil exploration and production company. He's named as a bundler in the same category as Kaiser.

All information is from factcheck.org

OBAMA AND LEGISLATION:

In an email sent out about Obama’s legislative record, it is claimed he sponsored “over 820 bills”. This is his true record according to factcheck.org;

Years in the Senate- 3

Bills sponsored- 129

Bills passed by senate- 7

Bills signed into law- 2

Sponsored, per year- 43

Passed by senate per year- 2.3

Signed into law, per year- 0.7

These are Barack Obama’s accomplishments since entering the Senate;

• S. 2125, A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

• S. 3757, A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 950 Missouri Avenue in East St. Louis, Illinois, as the "Katherine Dunham Post Office Building."

OBAMA AND DONATIONS:

THE LIE;

"We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50. We average -- our average donation is $109 so we have built the kind of organization that is funded by the American people that is exactly the goal and the aim of everybody who's interested in good government and politics supports."- Barack Obama

THE TRUTH;

“two-thirds of his money still comes from those giving $200 or more.”-factcheck.org

full article: link

Honeymoon's over.

Joe1991 · #2 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 03:20 PM

Yawn. Okay I'll take on the last "LIE":

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THE LIE;

"We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50. We average -- our average donation is $109 so we have built the kind of organization that is funded by the American people that is exactly the goal and the aim of everybody who's interested in good government and politics supports."- Barack Obama

THE TRUTH;

“two-thirds of his money still comes from those giving $200 or more.”-factcheck.org

Read those two statements closely, and basic math will show they don't contradict each other.

Really people, you're only preaching to the idiot choir with this garbage, and they're already in your camp.

OOOOOOO · #3 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 04:02 PM

LOL, neg repping and saying "lies" doesn't make them so. Only in the Kool-Aid universe does Barack Hussein Obama saying:

We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50

not contradict:

“two-thirds of his money still comes from those giving $200 or more.”

Joe1991 · #4 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OOOOOOO

LOL, neg repping and saying "lies" doesn't make them so. Only in the Kool-Aid universe does Barack Hussein Obama saying:

We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50

not contradict:

“two-thirds of his money still comes from those giving $200 or more.”

I'll explain it, but I can't promise you'll understand:

Say 9 people give me $10, and 1 gives me $200, (total $290)

that means 90% of the donations to me came from small donors,

but 2/3 of my total moniescame from someone giving $200 or more.

So simple, even a republican should understand it.

OOOOOOO · #5 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe1991

I'll explain it, but I can't promise you'll understand:

Say 9 people give me $10, and 1 gives me $200, (total $290)

that means 90% of the donations to me came from small donors,

but 2/3 of my total moniescame from someone giving $200 or more.

So simple, even a republican should understand it.

How condescending. There goes that personality again.

Too bad you had to add the word "total", now it's a semantics game. What he said:

[

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We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50

was supposed to mislead you into thinking:

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“90 percent of MY money still comes from those giving small donations, $25, $50".

Facts, who needs them?

He must have been using the teleprompter again.

Too complex to understand otherwise.

...for a cultist.

But that's okay, Joe, You're likeable *enough*.

Joe1991 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OOOOOOO

Too bad you had to add the word "total", now it's a semantics game.

No semantics, common english and simple math, and you still didn't get it.

...seems I was right to be condescending.

OOOOOOO · #7 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe1991

No semantics, common english and simple math, and you still didn't get it.

Semantic and typical lefto-babble.

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Q: Was Obama correct to say 90% of his money comes from donors giving $50 or less?

Last debate Obama stated that his campaign gets 90% of his donations from people that donate $25-$50. Is this possible?

"We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50. We average -- our average donation is $109 so we have built the kind of organization that is funded by the American people that is exactly the goal and the aim of everybody who's interested in good government and politics supports."

A: No. He gets more from small donors than either Clinton or McCain, but two-thirds of his money still comes from those giving $200 or more.
Barack Obama said that in the Feb. 26 debate with Hillary Clinton in Cleveland. He was wrong. We should have caught it, and we didn't.

The Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks donations at its Web site Opensecrets.org, figures that .

For comparison, Hillary Clinton got 16 percent of her money from $200-and-under donors, and John McCain got 24 percent of his.

34 percent of the donations that Obama raised and reported as of Feb. 20 came from donors who gave $200 or less

Amounts given by persons contributing $200 or less aren't itemized, so there's no way for an outsider to check precisely how much has come from donors giving $25 or $50.

What Obama probably meant to say is that 90 percent of his donors gave smaller donations, and that's likely true. A total of 81,637 persons have given donations to the Obama campaign that exceeded $200 and thus had to be itemized. Since the Obama campaign says that more than 1 million donors have given in total, it would follow that more than 90 percent of them gave smaller amounts. But that's not the way Obama put it.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...say_90_of.html

Happy now?

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Originally Posted by Joe1991

...seems I was right to be condescending.

...semms you didn' know the hell you were talking about again...

Professor Peabody · #8 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 10:50 PM

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OBAMA AND DONATIONS:

THE LIE;

"We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50. We average -- our average donation is $109 so we have built the kind of organization that is funded by the American people that is exactly the goal and the aim of everybody who's interested in good government and politics supports."- Barack Obama

THE TRUTH;

“two-thirds of his money still comes from those giving $200 or more.”-factcheck.org

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Saturday, October 20, 2007 - Page updated at 01:03 AM

New York's Chinese flood Clinton's coffers with cash

By Peter Nicholas and Tom Hamburger

NEW YORK — Something remarkable happened at 44 Henry St., a grimy Chinatown tenement with peeling walls. It also happened nearby at an apartment building with trash bins clustered by the front door.

And again not far away, at 88 E. Broadway beneath the Manhattan bridge, where vendors chatter in Mandarin and Fujianese as they hawk rubber sandals and bargain-basement clothes.

All three locations, along with scores of others in some of the poorest Chinese neighborhoods in Queens, Brooklyn and the Bronx, have been swept by an extraordinary impulse to shower money on one particular presidential candidate: Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Dishwashers, waiters and others whose jobs and dilapidated homes seem to make them unpromising targets for political fundraisers are pouring $1,000 and $2,000 contributions into Clinton's campaign treasury. In April, a single fundraiser in an area long known for gritty urban poverty yielded $380,000. When Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., ran for president in 2004, he received $24,000 from Chinatown.

At this point in the presidential campaign cycle, Clinton has raised more money than any candidate in history. Those dishwashers, waiters and street-stall hawkers are part of the reason. And Clinton's success in gathering money from Chinatown's least-affluent residents stems from a two-prong strategy: mutually beneficial alliances with powerful groups and appeals to the hopes and dreams of people consigned to the margins.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ondonor19.html

Does barack have the same method of getting those small donors as Hillary?

They hand me $1100, I donate $1000. I wish they'd canvass my neighborhood, I need new golf shoes.

Joe1991 · #9 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OOOOOOO

Happy now?

Nooooo, because what Obama said is correct:

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"We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50. We average -- our average donation is $109 so we have built the kind of organization that is funded by the American people that is exactly the goal and the aim of everybody who's interested in good government and politics supports."

If he had said "90 percent of our money comes from small donors", then you would have a leg to stand on.

Words mean things, don't blame me if you can't understand them.

OOOOOOO · #10 (**permalink**) 06-15-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe1991

If he had said "90 percent of our money comes from small donors", then you would have a leg to stand on.

Words mean things, don't blame me if you can't understand them.

Oh, are you the only people who can understand the Messiah's revelations (lies)? Like this one, maybe?

S-l-o-w-e-r....he said:

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"We have now raised 90 percent of our donations from small donors, $25, $50. We average -- our average donation is $109 so we have built the kind of organization that is funded by the American people that is exactly the goal and the aim of everybody who's interested in good government and politics supports."

From factcheck:

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34 percent of the donations that Obama raised and reported as of Feb. 20 came from donors who gave $200 or less

34 percent does not equal ninety percent, now does it?

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