Since John Kerrys recommendation for a Purple Heart for events on Dec. 2, 1968 at Cam Ranh Bay, was denied by Commander Grant Hibbard, how the heck did he get it? His gun jammed and he got a scratch that was treated
with bacitracin and a band-aid. He recommended himself by filing false paperwork and it was denied. Well, I would like to know how he got it.
Where is the official paperwork and how can we get it?

John Kerry has to sign a Standard Form 180 that gives permission for all the paperwork to be released. He refuses to do so.....even though many people have called on him to do so.

I think that pretty much answers as to the "why."

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jp5 said ' John Kerry has to sign a Standard Form 180 that gives permission for all the paperwork to be released. He refuses to do so.....even though many people have called on him to do so. '

If Kerry 'should' release his 180 than Bush should also. Otherwise what you are espousing is a red herring and totally disingenuous.

Sleepy said ' Since John Kerrys recommendation for a Purple Heart for events on Dec. 2, 1968 at Cam Ranh Bay, was denied by Commander Grant Hibbard, how the heck did he get it? His gun jammed and he got a scratch that was treated with bacitracin and a band-aid. He recommended himself by filing false paperwork and it was denied. Well, I would like to know how he got it.
Where is the official paperwork and how can we get it? '

All of what you repeated here has bee discredited by official Navy records and by eyewitnesses. Isn't it about time we gave up floating lies and get on with the campaign discussing real issues. It's time to end using the Nazi Goebbels propaganda principle of telling a lie over and over until the people believe it.

I WAS BORN AT NIGHT BUT IT WAS NOT LAST NIGHT

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What official records? He won't release them? I'm sure its a very thick folder since it's got to encompasses his long four months!

Sleepy contends that Kerry "made up' his first Purple Heart yest no one who makes this allegation has been able to produce one iota of evidence to support this contention. Similar dishonest statements have been made about Kerry's other medals also.

I have just one example of many as in this case where Thurlow said there was no enemy fire Thurlow's own Swift Boat crew member Robert Lambert, at his Eagle Point, Ore., home Wednesday, says he is no supporter of John Kerry, but backs up Kerry's version of the now-disputed events that led to Bronze Stars for both men in Vietnam. This is documented by The Associated Press
Updated: 2:37 p.m. ET Aug. 28, 2004PORTLAND, Ore.

- A Swift Boat crewman decorated in the 1969 Vietnam incident where John Kerry won a Bronze Star says not only did they come under enemy fire but also that his own boat commander, who has challenged the official account, was too distracted to notice the gunfire.

Furthermore ' A March 1969 Navy report located by The Associated Press this week supports Lambert’s version. The report twice mentions the incident and both times calls it “an enemy initiated firefight” that included automatic weapons fire and underwater mines used against a group of five boats that included Kerry’s. So far Naval archives when abtained have supported Kerry's version. Now eyewitnesses have come forward who support kerry's version.

What I am saying the entire pattern of lies about all of Kerry's medals have been exposed. Anti Kerry stories about his medals have been discredited.

You say ' what records Kerry won't release them"
Well if there are no records as you state than how can you support the contention that Kerry 'was recommended by filing false paperwork' . And don't tell me that someone who hates Kerry for his Senate testimony says it in their book. You can't it both ways. You cannot claim that reports are not avaialble for proof and then turn around and claim that there are reports for medals that Kerry wrote.

Show one iota of proof, real proof, not opinion, innuendo, and fantasy.

A primary claim against Mr. Kerry is that Mr. Kerry's first Purple Heart — awarded for action on Dec. 2, 1968 — did not involve the enemy and that Mr. Kerry's wounds that day were unintentionally self-inflicted.

Mr. Kerry has claimed that he faced his "first intense combat" that day, returned fire, and received his "first combat related injury."

HOWEVER
A journal entry Mr. Kerry wrote Dec. 11, raises questions about what really happened nine days earlier. "A cocky feeling of invincibility accompanied us up the Long Tau shipping channel because we hadn't been shot at yet, and Americans at war who haven't been shot at are allowed to be cocky," wrote Mr. Kerry, according the book "Tour of Duty" by friendly biographer Douglas Brinkley.

If enemy fire was not involved in that or any other incident, according to the Military Order of the Purple Heart, no medal should be awarded.

Even Cleland did not get a purple heart for his injuries! And if even only one of Kerry's purple hearts is discredited, then you know he would've had to stay in Vietnam longer. How many vets had just as many wounds as Kerry, but didn't finagle their way home?

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Bush already gave permission for ALL his military records to be released......last February. In fact....he ORDERED it. Now. When is John Kerry going to do the same thing?????

"Bush Orders Release of Military Records"
Saturday, February 14, 2004

WASHINGTON — President Bush released hundreds of pages of his military records Friday in an effort to counter growing talk that he might have shirked his duty while serving in the Texas Air National Guard (search) more than thirty years ago.

The documents, many of which were duplicates, provided details about Bush’s service in the Guard from 1968 until 1973. The president’s medical records, dozens of pages in all, were also opened to reporters in the Roosevelt Room (search), but were not allowed to be taken out of the room.

Democrats have wondered, especially in recent weeks as the 2000 presidential race heats up, whether Bush showed up for temporary duty in Alabama while serving on a political campaign between May of 1972 and May of 1973. The documents released Friday provided no new evidence that he was in Alabama during that time.

A retired Alabama Air National Guard officer, however, said he remembers Bush being in Alabama in 1972, reading safety magazines and flight manuals in an office as he performed his weekend obligations.

"I saw him each drill period," retired Lt. Col. John "Bill" Calhoun said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press from Daytona Beach, Fla."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111427,00.html


So....Pres. Bush has ORDERED the military to release ALL his military records. And that's resulted in HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF RECORDS.

So far, all the reporters can get when they go to find records on Kerry is 6 pages. The military says they have hundreds more....but Kerry hasn't given them permission to release them. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YA??? WHY DOESN'T HE???? WHAT'S HE HIDING???

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