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Old 06-20-2008, 10:35 AM
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Default Senator Jim Webb (D-Virginia & Possible VP Candidate) Splits w/ Obama on Oil Drilling

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By pushing a bill that distances himself from the Democratic Party and its presidential candidate on offshore drilling, Sen. Jim Webb of Virginia is picking a curious time to exercise his well-known independence.

Webb wants his home state to have the right to explore for energy off Virginia’s coast. His staff insists his proposal pertains only to natural gas, and not oil, and that it is completely in line with the state’s other two leading Democrats — Gov. Tim Kaine and former Gov. Mark Warner, who is running for Senate.

Yet by attaching his name to the bill, sponsored by Sen. John Warner (R-Va.), Webb is taking a step away from Barack Obama (D-Ill.), the party’s presidential candidate, who opposes offshore drilling, and one closer to Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), the GOP standard-bearer who recently called for lifting the federal ban.

Webb’s divergence from his party also comes as his name is being mentioned on Obama’s short list for a running mate.

A key McCain ally, GOP Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, seized on the similarities between Webb and McCain on offshore drilling.

“It shows Sen. Webb is right sometimes,” Graham said.

Webb rejected the suggestion that his position differs from other Democrats’, saying that the bill calls for “a very careful approach,” state leaders would be a key part of the decision, and Virginia desperately needs the revenue stream for cash-starved transportation needs. Such decisions therefore should be made by Virginia, not Washington, he said.

“We can’t just not act,” he said. “It’s time we had some leadership to really grab the larger picture and solve these problems.”

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D) of Illinois and Sen. Charles Schumer (D) of New York dismissed any concerns about Webb’s stance, saying they did not notice his proposal Wednesday. Durbin, however, pointedly rejected Webb’s argument that states should have the right to make drilling decisions.

“There’s national concerns here, too,” Durbin said.

The Obama campaign would not directly address Webb’s proposal, but instead pointed to a statement Obama released Wednesday on offshore drilling.

“Opening our coastlines to offshore drilling would take at least a decade to produce any oil at all, and the effect on gasoline prices would be negligible at best since America only has 3 percent of the world’s oil,” Obama said in a statement that did not explicitly distinguish between oil and gas drilling.

McCain on Tuesday reversed a long-held stance and called for states to have the right to explore for oil offshore. A pair of federal moratoriums have been in place since the 1980s — one controlled by the executive branch, one by Congress — that bar offshore drilling.

Webb’s proposal, unveiled Wednesday with John Warner, would allow Virginia to request a federal waiver to drill for natural gas at least 50 miles from the coastline on an exploration-only basis. A second waiver would be needed if gas is found, and any revenues would be split between state and federal coffers.

The legislation “offers a preliminary step toward exploration and development of one of our domestic energy sources,” Webb said. “In order to address our nation’s energy crisis, all options need to be on the table.”

One of Virginia’s most prominent environmental groups also opposes Webb’s idea, saying there is no plausible environmental distinction between gas and oil drilling and that any environmental damage would spread far beyond Virginia’s coast.

“This puts the camel’s nose under the tent,” said Glen Besa, director of the Virginia chapter of the Sierra Club, which has 17,000 members in the commonwealth. “And the risk associated with this would affect not just Virginia. It would affect Maryland. It would affect North Carolina. You can’t just do this on a one-state-only basis.”

Kaine has carefully distinguished between oil and gas drilling, saying that Virginia so far does not endorse oil exploration. Mark Warner, campaigning Wednesday in the state, advocated lifting the federal moratorium on oil drilling to allow Virginia to explore. He also distinguished between oil and gas, saying that natural gas presents fewer environmental risks.
Guess he won't be VP. I guess this was part of his strategy, lol. Another candidate off the list. Webb would never be Obama’s VP. Webb is too good for Obama and they both know it.

The Dems will be sprinting from Obama by the end of August. Too late. The local GOP will highlight Obama and Ayers, Rev. Wright, no drilling, etc...and the say, my opponent endorses Obama.

Obama will make or break this Republic. Gas prices will be the tipping point to save us (just like Elian saved us in 2000 by tipping Fla to Dubya). We get a few more years.
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We applaud Senator Webb on taking real action, real change and admitting that hope can only happen with these actions.
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Guess he won't be VP.
Riiiight.
Because a presidential candidate and a running mate must always agree on everything.

I think you're reading too much into it. This is obviously one of those issues where people will have disagreement within parties.
I would assume Webb's being pro-life would be more important than this if anything was going to change his likelihood of being a running mate.
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Riiiight.
Because a presidential candidate and a running mate must always agree on everything.

I think you're reading too much into it. This is obviously one of those issues where people will have disagreement within parties.
I would assume Webb's being pro-life would be more important than this if anything was going to change his likelihood of being a running mate.
on the most important issue of the campaign, you would think.
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The GOP should put out a ‘Fight the Lies’ website about oil and gas drilling. Here is a few lies to start debunking:

“We can’t drill our way out of this”

“America has only 3% of the worlds resources”

“It was take a decade or more for any oil to reach the market”

“ANWR would only cause a one cent reduction in the price of gas”

“ANWR only contains 4M barrels of oil at most”

“Oil rigs are a danger to sealife and spills could destroy our beaches and tourism”

“If we could raise the CAFE standards by 1 MPG we could save all the oil we get from Saudia Arabia each year”

The list of lies (especially the statistics about oil supply, reserves, field sizes) is massive and they are included in every press release from the DNC like the one Obama put out here.
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on the most important issue of the campaign, you would think.
Drilling for more oil is "the most important issue of the campaign"?
Since when?
Oil prices is an important issue, as is the economy as a whole. The question of drilling is a small part of those and really only for those that think it will actually make a worthwhile difference.
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Drilling for more oil is "the most important issue of the campaign"?
Since when?
Oil prices is an important issue, as is the economy as a whole. The question of drilling is a small part of those and really only for those that think it will actually make a worthwhile difference.
which is about 60% of the country.
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which is about 60% of the country.
60% agreeing with it does not determine that 60% believe it is the number one issue (or will be through the whole campaign).
Even amongst people who see the drilling as a good idea, few are naive enough to believe that alone will solve the problems of oil prices, energy independence, or the economy.
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which is about 60% of the country.
94% of internet message board percentages are made up on the spot.
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94% of internet message board percentages are made up on the spot.
He's close in so far as what percentage of Americans agree with Alaska/off-shore drilling.
And it is becoming a bigger issue on people's minds.
Of course much of it is based on panic over gas prices.

Interesting part is that whichever side wins will be at a disadvantage.
If we don't drill and prices continue up, people will blame it on not drilling.
If we do drill and prices continue up or fail to drop, people will be mad over the politicians who supported drilling.

It's the problem with politicians responding to populist concerns. It's one thing to listen to what the people are concerned about... It's another to take advantage of those concerns to push an agenda- Both parties do this and both are quick to point out when the other side does.
But this drilling thing is one of the most obvious!
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