Dan Caplis reports on Barack Obama's negative racial views, and other important revelations about Obama.

OBAMA SAYS BLACK NATIONALISM - A STEADY ATTACK ON THE WHITE RACE - WOULD BE JUSTIFIED IF IT COULD DELIVER.

Scroll down and listen to Obama the racist with your own ears, you will be in shock.

http://www.khow.com/pages/caplisrepo...rticle=3865991

The Denver media is going to drop the bomb on Obama, I would like him to also release his birth certificate. The one that he release previously is fraudulent, what is he hiding?

This article demonstrates a very poor understanding of race relations in the United States. Obama is 45 years old. That means that he was born in 1963. The Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964. It was only 44 years ago before Congress (controlled primarily by white people) saw it in their interests to stop treated black people like second-class citizens. How long do you think it takes for people to give up hatred? My guess is that it still exists, because there are people still alive that remember what it was like when it was happening because they witnessed it.

People act like since slavery ended almost 150 years ago, that blacks should be over it, but they don't think about the fact that racial relations created power of the whites over the blacks until just over 44 years ago by the letter of the law.

So first, do you deny that life for a black individual prior to the Civil Rights Act was pretty poor?

Second, do you deny that those that experienced are without right to be upset about what happened?

Given that blacks were denied the ability to go to better educational institutions up until the last couple decades, and given the fact that blacks were not permitted to participate in governmental roles of leadership until the last couple decades, and given that it takes time for an individual to gain notoriety and success, can you fault the black individuals for still being a little upset about what happened?

People act like whites fixed the problem, so why are the blacks still upset? They're upset because it takes time to fix such things, and many of these elements are still broken, but we act like they aren't. On paper it seems fine, but in reality, it is quite different.

The irony behind it all is that your post only proves the sentiments that Obama was talking about. This was a confessional to demonstrate the way he viewed the world growing up, which was a time just after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, so things were much worse than they are today. That doesn't mean he still believes them to this day. As the world changes, give the people that comprise it some room to breathe so that they might change with it.

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A [person] has a property in [their] opinions and the free communication of them. -James Madison

So strong is this propensity of [humanity] to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 10

James Madison for President -White Fox

Furthermore, this isn't exactly ground-breaking news. The book was published in 1995. That's 13 years ago. People in politics already know about this because it received immense applaud by most literary critics, and won awards for it's honesty.

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A [person] has a property in [their] opinions and the free communication of them. -James Madison

So strong is this propensity of [humanity] to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 10

James Madison for President -White Fox

OH NO!!! A radical right wing radio talk show host, who has been busted for lying in the past, is telling STORIES! About OBAMA!!!

Whatever will we DO???

Take his word for it!

The stupid attacks on 'Dreams' is getting really annoying. I can only hope it gets enough people to read the actual book and dispel them.

You made some valid statistical points in this post.

1. So first, do you deny that life for a black individual prior to the Civil Rights Act was pretty poor?
2. Second, do you deny that those that experienced are without right to be upset about what happened?
3. Given that blacks were denied the ability to go to better educational institutions up until the last couple decades

1. Sure - Black life before civil rights was poor. However; there were a lot of prosperous blacks then too. http://www.hbs.edu/bhr/archives/abstracts/vol63.html
   
2. Sure it's okay to be upset - but it's reasonable to get over it!
3. Blacks aren't the ONLY ONES denied a better education - people like me with over a 160 IQ who can't get into Harvard! Should I also be bitter?

The old cliché is "WHITE IS HOLDING THE BROTHER DOWN!"

... but many brother's are doing better than I am!

I suppose it's because none of my people owned slaves - that's why my life is like a brother!

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Let me explain something ...

It's ALL in the perception.

The problem is (not just with blacks)

poor people are poor because

• they can NOT see what is required to succeed
• they won't do what it takes
• they lack the determination to go the whole distance.
• they waist too much time trying to resent those who are making it

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I knew an old guy named Burt (in Billings) who built and owned the LARGEST store in Montana (this store even had a theater in it!)

He taught me MANY THINGS ...

... but the most important thing I ever got from him was this ....

When he was younger and everyone would sit in the local coffee shop drinking a morning coffee which cost them 5 cents - He wouldn't!

He chose to spend that nickel on a box of brads (tiny tack nails).
which he used to make money tightening up loose carpet.

He then took that couple bucks he made and bought more things he could make money with (tools & materials) which he kept building up until he bought his first backhoe ....

He would work 14 - 16 - 18 hours a day --- nearly EVERY DAY!

I think he was in his 70's when I met him (and went to work for him) and he was still into working 14 hour days! We had fun working!

We really did some cool stuff ... he was opening a restaurant in his shopping center when I met him! He taught me a bunch about rewiring and plumbing!

He was a GREAT GUY!

My point is that people FAIL to understand what they see.

They see a successful person and do not see what it took to get there.

They just think it is UNFAIR!

WORK 14 hour days towards making money ... it WILL COME!

That old guy - was still against buy a cup of coffee in coffee shop ...

he wanted that nickel from everybody else!

Like right NOW - the middle box on the upper right of this web page says:
MAKE POVERTY HISTORY

In order to make poverty history - you have to motivate those who lack motivation.

If they do not get motivated - they are NOT changing what is making them POOR!

HERE ARE SOME INTERESTING ARTICLES:
Black-Owned Businesses in the South, 1790-1880

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Part of the first videoed speech by any President was by President Calvin Coolidge said:
I want the people of America to be able to work less for the government and more for themselves.

Can you tell he was a Republican!

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You do make good points as well. Thank you for responding to the actual content of the argument, instead of finding one small thing in the post and arguing against that. Too many people on this forum do that, which doesn't actually refute the argument, only that small part of it.

With that said, I think there are some other parts of this equation that many people too often ignore.

But first, on your responses to the three questions.

1.) You say that there were a lot of prosperous blacks prior to '64, and I do not deny this, however, it is both a proportional and scalar issue. First, the proportion of successful blacks versus the proportion of successful whites in accordance to percentage of population demonstrates a strong curve to one side over the other. Now that percentage has improved. If some would say that they were lazy before, but aren't now and this is the reason for the change (Note, I am not saying you would necessarily support that position), then the argument is laughable. Conditions beget opportunity, not the other way around. As conditions improved, so too did opportunity. It is also scalar, because the amount of improvement was not even. It was incredibly slow at first because their were still a great deal of racist people in power that slowed progress.

But how successful some individuals may have been doesn't entirely remedy how absolutely miserable the people that were treated like inferior people felt. Being treated at all times like you are sub-human is a deep scar, and wounds that deep take more than 40 years to heal, I would imagine. Also, remember that Obama is writing this memoir on his accounts during his lifetime, so even 40 years isn't accurate, but rather 10-30ish.

2.) You say it is reasonable to get over it. I agree. But the question in conflict is, how much time is too much time, or too little. This is difficult to answer, but I suspect that there are those who are still alive that remember how hard life was. They were treated as inferior, and when people persecute you on nothing more than something as superficial as the color of your skin, I imagine (and mind you, I am speculating, because I am not of that race) that it takes more than a generation or two to get past it. For these reasons, I hold no contempt for those that harbor ill-will to the other side for what has happened during their life-time. And remember, the bright line in the sand isn't the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 64, because it wasn't a simple light switch. You can't just turn off racism. It persists, and does still today, though many scholars would argue to a lesser degree, and one that we hope will continue to improve. Just read the underlying warrants for many arguments made on these very forums to prove that we are still a racist society. I don't indict either race for doing so. There was a lot of hatred from both sides, but the whites feel like they are absolved because they passed some laws, but that didn't heal the wounds.

3.) You say blacks aren't the only ones denied education. True. I myself have a very high IQ, and I am not in the best of schools, so I understand your reasoning. However, I do not think that going to Harvard is the best standard to use. What I mean is that blacks weren't allowed to attend any white schools period. Other whites that didn't get in at least were allowed to attend. And recall that white schools were better funded, because most schools receive a large amount of their funding from alumni, and since there was a large proportion of successful whites as compared to blacks, it is easy to see how those schools would have better resources, and better connections. Recall that one of the most important aspects of a good school isn't just a good degree, but also economic connections. These connections, even until today, are in higher abundance and predominately white schools.


I do not deny that there are a large amount of individuals that are poor because they lack ambition. I do not argue that blacks are the only ones that are poor. I am white, and very poor (primarily because I am a penniless writer, but that is my own fault.)

What I am saying is that there were institutional targeted primarily blacks, and not whites. I am not saying that these policies implemented by the U.S. gov't were necessarily racially motivated (though it is plausible that they might have been). I am referring in particular to what is known as Mortgage Discrimination. I will give a very brief, butchered synopsis of what occured, but I implore everyone that reads this to look into it, because it explains a lot about current racial relations in the U.S.

After WWII, soldiers from the war were promised to be taken care of, but there were an immense amount of veterans. One of the programs designed to help them was gov't subsidized mortgage loans. This dropped interest rates to levels that most people could for the first time afford to buy a home.

To justify the feasibility of these loans, the gov't did studies, and they wrote down in their policies that non-whites had a slightly higher risk of lowering property values and of defaulting on their loans (this made sense, given that on average, whites made more than non-whites since whites had a greater amount of economic connections). Because of this, and because of supply issues of available housing, non-whites were almost entirely passed over for loans, and the overwhelming majority of these loans were give to whites.

But there simply weren't enough homes for everyone, which led to suburban housing projects. This led to the first large-scale incidents of 'white-flight' (though it means something different today), as whites relocated from large urban areas into suburban areas.

This meant you had a large percentage of whites in low-density areas, and a large percentage of non-whites in high-density areas. Recall that whites make on average more money. Since school funding for K-12 is predicated directly upon property values, and because property values in suburban areas are large than urban areas, it led to better-funded, undercrowded schools for the whites, and poorly-funded, over-crowded schools for non-whites.

Years later, this still exists. It isn't the fault (per se) of whites, but the whites do enjoy the after effects, and then wonder why the blacks are not more successful, and why they complain so much. This makes blacks upset, because whites don't seem to understand their plight.

It is hard to imagine that people that attend poorly-funded schools that are overcrowded have the same quality of opportunity as those that attend better funded schools. Studies show direct positive correlations between both factors of crowding and funding to success. Given that the percentage of suburban areas are is higher for whites, it makes sense that whites tend to be more successful. All because of policies made by the gov't that non-whites were a slightly higher risk.

Boy, don't I wish poverty would end. And I agree, motivation is important. But it isn't just about poverty. It is about how whites treated blacks. Not all whites, but enough to create deep scars. Those scars still exist.

I could go all day on this topic, but this post is already too long, so I will save the rest for another day.

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A [person] has a property in [their] opinions and the free communication of them. -James Madison

So strong is this propensity of [humanity] to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts -James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 10

James Madison for President -White Fox

WOW ........

I am not going to attempt to respond to your post ... it would get way too large!

However; I would like to expound on a few points.

partially; the problem is also be self induced. (nearly said "MAY BE")

However; being close enough to call myself 50 years old (less than 3 weeks from it) and coming from a fairly predominant Italian family type background I can say that a portion of this is truly self imposed.

The reason I am elaborating on the ITALIAN aspect of my background is due to how White America considered Italians as today's Mexican are seen.
We were a less than equal people as well.

What made us different was not the Mafia (every minority goes through an element of criminal behavior) - it was in fact that Italians proceeded to join and assimulate into the culture as did the Irish.

The root of the problem has either been overlooked or blatantly disregarded for one reason or another.

The problem is this:

1. refuse to accept the language as it is written.
2. denounces the methods and process of fiscal responsiblity.
3. Insinuates that they are disliked by those they actually resent.
4. The refusal to understand that the disrespect for the place they live is why they are not progressing.

Allow me to elaborate on this in a generic sense.
Understand - this is applicable to other groups as well as the blacks.

"Refuse to accept the language as it is written."
That is a deliberate disregard and disrespect for the language of the land.

America should NEVER allow others to dictate what our language (American English) should sound like or be altered to.

We are American English speaking - I was about 6 years old when my father became an American. The day he got his naturalization papers - I was watch Flipper on TV and he stood at the front door beaming with pride because he was NOW AN AMERICAN! Right then and there he said -- we are AMERICAN - now we ONLY speak English in the home!

It's that type of mindset (that thinking pattern) which allows people to unity.

It is the common cause just like black & white in the military or black & white on the job or black & white in a church.

denounces the methods and process of fiscal responsiblity.

Let's be short and to the point with this one ...

It infuriates me to hear blacks call Doctor Rice and Aunt Jemimah or other's as an Uncle Tom because they were successful ...

AND when they had the riots in Watt's what did they do besides complain about how black businesses leave their area's?

They burned down that poor man's furniture business ... and he was black!
Why would he ever consider opening up THERE again?

Insinuates that they are disliked by those they actually resent.

How MANY TIMES have I held a door open for women ...

I can seriously say this:

I have gotten a LOT MORE disrespect when I did it for black women.

I have gotten dirty looks ... many times they don't thank a person for the consideration towards them - like I being a white person own them the door service!

Actually had one try to pull it closed on me after they entered
as I was trying to go in after holding it open for her.

The refusal to understand that the disrespect for the place they live is why they are not progressing.

When I was in New Orleans I had a seasonal job working in a plant which which made hot sauce.

I had a buddy who was the security guard there ... we would catch the same lunch break and go to a resaturant to eat.

One day we were driving through a black area ... and he made an interesting comment - he said "can you tell we just entered a black neighborhood?"

when I questioned his comment he mentioned the broken beer bottles and there were a couple tires and all sorts of other trash in the street.

Too many of them think that equality is by government mandate

they refuse to understand things like equality and respect are NOT FREELY GIVEN AWAY - they are earned and deserved.

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Part of the first videoed speech by any President was by President Calvin Coolidge said:
I want the people of America to be able to work less for the government and more for themselves.

Can you tell he was a Republican!

For those who want something to care about:
Want To Do Good? Help This Organization Moyer Foundation's Camp Erin started by Phillies Pitcher