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Old 06-27-2008, 12:19 PM
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Another smear tactic. How creative.

In case you missed his speech:

2002:

http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/0..._state_sen.php

And here is the real context of his remarks:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-..._and_iraq.html

Nice try though, you just took things out of context.
A lie! How creative...

In case you missed the interview with Tim Russert, Obama explained that he was just doing politics as usual, telling people what they wanted to hear.


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RUSSERT: You were not in the Senate in October of 2002. You did give a speech opposing the war. But Sen. Clinton’s campaign will say since you’ve been a senator there’s been no difference in your record. And other critics will say that you’ve not been a leader against the war, and they point to this: In July of '04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of '04. And this: “I think” there’s “some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war.” It doesn’t seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have voted for it.

OBAMA: Now, Tim, that first quote was made with an interview with a guy named Tim Russert on "Meet the Press" during the (2004 Democratic National) convention when we had a nominee for the presidency and a vice president, both of whom had voted for the war. And so it probably was the wrong time for me to be making a strong case against our party’s nominees’ decisions when it came to Iraq.

But wait. Wasn't it Obama who's been criticizing other Democrats, specifically Clinton, for triangulation, calculating quotes and saying different things to different audiences to avoid alienating any potential voters?

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A lie! How creative...

In case you missed the interview with Tim Russert, Obama explained that he was just doing politics as usual, telling people what they wanted to hear.




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He was supporting his candidate. What about that is a lie? Also...Read my link...you took his quotes out of context.

Your smears are laughable
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Old 06-27-2008, 12:25 PM
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He was supporting his candidate. What about that is a lie? Also...Read my link...you took his quotes out of context.

Your smears are laughable
Ahh, so he was just saying anything for political purposes, eh?

Got it.

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Ahh, so he was just saying anything for political purposes, eh?

Got it.

Thanks.
But that's OK to liberals, JLB. I've even heard them say so. "He has to say that to get elected, but he doesn't really mean it." I just want to know how they think they know what he will do. Do they read minds?
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Ahh, so he was just saying anything for political purposes, eh?

Got it.

Thanks.
Did I say that? No. He was supporting his candidate. Bottom line.
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But that's OK to liberals, JLB. I've even heard them say so. "He has to say that to get elected, but he doesn't really mean it." I just want to know how they think they know what he will do. Do they read minds?
He didn't do what you are accusing him of doing, so your smear will not succeed.
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Did I say that? No. He was supporting his candidate. Bottom line.

So was he lying then, or is he lying now?
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So was he lying then, or is he lying now?
He never lied! You took his comments out of context.
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He never lied! You took his comments out of context.
I fear your passion for Obama has clouded your judgment. I don't buy the "out of context" excuse. The man said what he said, and he was caught! Plain an simple.

What annoys me the most about you is that you have an EXCUSE for EVERYTHING, God forbid the Messiah lie! NO WAY, he MUST have meant something else when he said that!

I would have a lot more respect for you if you just admitted it.
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I fear your passion for Obama has clouded your judgment. I don't buy the "out of context" excuse. The man said what he said, and he was caught! Plain an simple.

What annoys me the most about you is that you have an EXCUSE for EVERYTHING, God forbid the Messiah lie! NO WAY, he MUST have meant something else when he said that!

I would have a lot more respect for you if you just admitted it.
Read the link I posted. It explains the context of the interview.
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