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Bill. Hill. Bad cop. Good cop.

Hillary will make kissy-face with Obama, while Bill makes sure he doesn't get elected.
It's very optimistic of you to think there is a good cop in that pair.
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& I'll double-dam-guarantee you that Hillary is just as angry. The same people that put the Clintons up on a pedestal & treated them like little gods, they could do no wrong, literally, have thrown them aside like used tissue.
You bet they're angry.
If this teaches people nothing else it should teach them what the Dem leadershp is like. No character, no core, no loyalty.
She is probably more angry than Bill is. She lost the chance to rule the world that she thought was already in her pocket.
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Isn't this hilarious watching these baboons fling (*)(*)(*)(*) at each other?
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Isn't this hilarious watching these baboons fling (*)(*)(*)(*) at each other?
Calling the Clintons and the Obama campaign baboons is very offensive to baboons.
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he didn't win the popular vote in the primaries and he won't against mccain. obama has no plan to beat him except to get people to troll the internet for him that he pays.
Last I checked you don't need to win the popular vote to win either the primaries or the general election. Perhaps the Hillary camp should have looked into this a little further, if their strategy was to win the popular vote.

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the hell with your abcnews article, they can't even get the date on that one

http://www.abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/S...4073183&page=1

on page 1. figures that they're obama supporters.
Yeah, real bias printing a candidate's full interview verbatim. And broadcasting your strategy like that. What a monumental blunder. All the other candidates knew all they had to do was get through Feb 5 and her campaign would falter, which it did. She finally started getting back on track near the end, but by then it was too late. Not very good qualities for running the country.
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The Clinton's are two very bitter and power-hungry people. Dissed by their OWN party---it's the ultimate "slap in the face."
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he didn't win the popular vote in the primaries and he won't against mccain. obama has no plan to beat him except to get people to troll the internet for him that he pays.
Well according to your analogy Al Gore should have been the president in 2000, right.

Bush: 50,456,002 47.87% Gore: 50,999,897 48.38%

Sounds like another disgruntled Clinton fan too me, if you have been unhappy with 7 yrs of Bush you are going to love or should I say hate 4 yrs of McCain.


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Well according to your analogy Al Gore should have been the president in 2000, right.

Bush: 50,456,002 47.87% Gore: 50,999,897 48.38%

Sounds like another disgruntled Clinton fan too me, if you have been unhappy with 7 yrs of Bush you are going to love or should I say hate 4 yrs of McCain.


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Here is the truth about Bill's support, from someone who knows more about it than any of us. Who is closer to the Clinton's than Terry McAuliffe? Last time I checked, no one.

Today on CNN's Late Edition:

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CROWLEY: As you know, the missing man in this formation has been Bill Clinton. Lots of talk. I know Bill Clinton. You know Bill Clinton a whole lot better.

If he wanted to stop this talk that he was angry, that there are a lot of things that he is harboring off this campaign, he could. But he hasn't. Why not?

MCAULIFFE: Well, first off, he's not angry. I've seen some of these stories, too. I still find it amazing that no one's called me. I, besides his staff, probably talk to him more than anyone else. I talk to him every day.

It was a long, hard campaign; very proud of his wife. They spoke -- Hillary and Barack spoke the other day, and Senator Obama said he wanted to speak with President Clinton. She said, absolutely.

What I think they wanted to do was, first of all, go through the event on Friday, the unity event. It was up to Hillary. She was the candidate. As Bill Clinton will say, she is the political leader of their family.

So I thought it was very important for the president that Hillary get out there first and do it Friday.

He just got back from a five-nation trip around the world. He was over at Mandela's 90th birthday party and other places. Now that he's back, I believe, in the next 24, 48 hours, they'll talk, and off we will go.

CROWLEY: Well, he could -- you know, Barack Obama -- the campaign says they reached out to him when he was over in Europe and he hasn't returned the phone calls. Yes, no?

MCAULIFFE: I don't believe that's true. I believe -- and I spoke to Hillary, also. I believe that Senator Obama said to Hillary that he wanted to speak to her husband. So I don't think it was a direct call to Bill Clinton.

But, listen, he was gone. He was back with his foundation. He's now back. Hey are going to speak in the next couple of days.

But I think he felt that it was very important that Hillary Clinton do the event on Friday, do the event on Thursday night -- she was the candidate; she got 18 million votes; she's the political leader of the Clinton family now -- for her to do that event.

Any time that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama speak, it's going to be big news. They wanted this out of the way first.

Now that that's over, they will speak. And I'll bet you they speak within the next 24 hours, 48 at the most.

CROWLEY: Because it's out of the way now, so...

MCAULIFFE: Absolutely.

CROWLEY: And you've talked to him. And he said, I'm going to call him; what is all this business about my being angry, harboring resentment?

MCAULIFFE: I did this morning. Yes, he was angry that these ridiculous stories were out here, and these supposed close friends of the president. None of the close friends ever got called.

You know, what happens, a lot of time, is people like to pretend they're close so they can tell the reporters that they're close, but, you know, they're just talking.

If you read my book, "What a Party," I talk about Bill Clinton. This man doesn't stay mad. He can get mad for 24 hours. It's his Irish ancestry.

And you know what? You can do whatever you want to Bill Clinton yesterday. Today he's back fighting.

But as it relates to the Democratic Party, as it relates to Barack Obama, he will go 24/7. He is fine.

Is he somewhat angry, as I am, and others, at some of the treatment Hillary Clinton received from the press? Sure. But, you know, that's life. We don't talk about it anymore. We're past that. We said that on the campaign trail.

But beyond that, you know, there's some things we could have done on the campaign differently. That's not Barack Obama's fault. That's our fault, the press fault. You know what? But we're past that. And we're moving on. The issues are too great.

So he is raring to go. I spoke to him today. He's ready to go. He'll do whatever Senator Obama and his team want him to do.

We've got, you know, probably four to eight seats we can pick up in the Senate, 20 to 30 seats in the House. We have 80 percent of the state legislators up this year, Candy.

Do you know what could happen if we win a big majority of those?

Redistricting reapportionment are coming up in two years. This is huge for our party. Everything that we have fought for, Bill Clinton has fought for in his life, we can make a huge dynamic change coming up in this election.

And for Bill Clinton's legacy and the things that he fought for that George Bush took back, Barack Obama can put them right back out there. So it's important for President Clinton that Barack Obama become president.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../29/le.01.html

Let's be honest, and realize that this Bill "anger" is a smear tactic in an attempt to divide the party.

The truth wins again.
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Here is the truth about Bill's support, from someone who knows more about it than any of us. Who is closer to the Clinton's than Terry McAuliffe? Last time I checked, no one.
the truth is not in terry mcauliffe
rely on him if you want spin, never the truth
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