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July 1, 2008

Obama Fails the John Kerry Test
Raymond Kraft



Just four years ago, Sen. John Kerry strode onstage at the Democrat National Convention and declared, "I'm John Kerry, and I'm reporting for duty." In the course of the contest between Kerry and Bush, John Kerry and the Democrats set up the John Kerry Test for Presidential Qualification, one which George W. Bush could only fail, and one which only John Kerry could pass. There are three points to the test:

One: To be qualified to be president, a candidate must have military service.

Two: Active duty service in the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, or Coast Guard, in a war zone,trumps National Guard service in the states.

Three: Active duty service in actual combat trumps service that did not see combat.


George W. Bush served in the Air National Guard, and despite the persistent unprovenrumors that he went "AWOL" by missing a last meeting in his enlistment, he was elected anyway, for which Democrats will never forgive him. John Kerry indisputably served in Vietnam, in country, on a Riverine patrol boat in the Mekong Delta for three or four months, and he has the Purple Hearts and a Silver Star to prove it.According to the John Kerry Test, John Kerry should be president today.

Democrats have longsince forgotten all about the John Kerry Test and will soon nominate Barack Hussein Obama, who fails to meet any of the three points of the John Kerry Test, for president. Obama has never been anywhere near the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard, or National Guard, in war or in peace. He has no active duty service, no reserve service, no military service of any kind, yet he may soon be Commander-in-Chief. He has never served in a war zone and he has never been in combat. He has been a community organizer (whatever that is); a lawyer for slumlord Tony Rezko, the newly convicted felon; the loyal parishioner of Rev. Jeremiah Wright who hates whitey and America; a lecturer at a law school for twelve years (although I do not know that he has ever tried or appealed a case, maybe he has); a state legislator and a senator for two years. He fails the John Kerry Test in every respect.
John McCain, however, meets the John Kerry Test in spades, far better than John Kerry does.

John McCain is the son and the grandson of Navy admirals.He graduated from the United States Naval Academy at Anapolis - near the bottom of his class academically, but with a fine reputation as a scrapper. Obama has never been anywhere near a military academy. After graduating McCain went to Pensacola and became a carrier-qualified naval aviator in 1960, the year before Barack Obama war born, flying A-1 Skyraiders from the carriers USS Enterprise and USS Intrepid.

In 1966, at his request, McCain was reassigned to the USS Forrestal flying A-4 Skyhawks, a light attack jet that the Blue Angels flew for many years. In the summer of 1967 Barack Obama was six years old, and John McCain went to war. McCain and many other pilots were frustrated by the micromanagement of the war from Washington, and he later wrote: "In all candor, we thought our civilian [Democrat] commanders were complete idiots who didn't have the least notion of what it took to win the war."

John McCain was almost killed on July 29, 1967, when a fire broke out on the USS Forrestal. He escaped from his burning jet, and was trying to help another pilot escape when a bomb exploded, striking McCain in the legs and chest with bomb fragments.The fire killed 134 sailors and burned for 24 hours before itwas brought under control and extinguished.With theForrestal out of commission, McCain volunteered for duty on the USS Oriskany.

Barack Obama was six years old.

John McCain was shot down on October 26, 1967, on his 23rd combat mission over North Vietnam. He fractured both arms and a leg and nearly drowned when he parachuted into Truc Bach Lake in Hanoi. As he regained consciousness, a crowd attacked him, bayoneted him, and crushed his shoulder with a rifle butt. He was then taken to Hoa Lo Prison, the "Hanoi Hilton," where he would spend most of the next five years.

His captors refused to treat him and proceeded to beat and interrogate him, until they found that he was the son of an admiral, with great propaganda value, and then gave him medical care. Over the next six weeks in a Hanoi hospital, he lost 50 pounds and his hair turned white. Upon discharge he was sent to another camp, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live.

In March, 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, for two years. Barack Obama was seven years old.

In 1968, McCain's father became commander of all U.S. forces in Southeast Asia. The North Vietnamese offered McCain an early release for propaganda purposes, to show the POWs that elites like McCain got preferential treatment. McCain refused, stating he would only accept the offer if every other man taken prisoner before him was also released. In August, 1968, a period of severe torture began, during which McCain was subjected to repeated beatings while suffering from dysentery. After four days he reached his breaking point and gave a "confession," which he regrets, but has since written what we all know, instinctively,that every man has a breaking point.

Would Barack Obama have withstood such torture? For five years?

McCain was released on March 14, 1973. Barack Obama was 12. He remained on active duty, undergoing months of treatment and physical therapy for his injuries, attended the National War College during 1973-1974, and had his flight status reinstated in 1976 when he became commanding officer of a training squadron in Florida. He turned around a low-performing unit and won the squadron its first Meritorious Unit Commendation.

Barack Obama was 15, attending high school in Hawaii.

McCain retired from the Navy as a captain in 1981, after 21 years on active duty. He had been awarded the Silver Star, the Legion of Merit, the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Bronze Star, and the Navy Commendation Medal, for conduct before, during, and after his years as a POW.

McCain passes the John Kerry Test with all flags flying.

Obama doesn't.

On June 29, 2008, retired General Wesley Clark gave an interview on Meet the Press in which he disparages John McCain's service, saying he doesn't "getting shot down and spending five years as a POW qualifies a man to be president. "Clark didn't mention the other 16 years of McCain's distinguished service, obviously a deliberate attempt at deception, by omission of relevant facts.

To General Wesley Clark, I reply: Five years as a POW on the receiving end of the torture, beatings, starvation, solitary confinement, and the other physical and psychological abuse John McCain withstood, is five years of combat, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. His captors had the guns; he was unarmed. His captors had the ropes andtruncheons to beat him with. His captors controlled his freedom, communication, food, water.

All he had to fight with was his will.

If the John Kerry Test tells us who should be president, Barack Obama should stand down now and concede the election to John McCain, today.


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Good description of the vast gulf of experience and character that seperates the next President and the race pimp from Illinois.
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Um, doesn't the nonelection of John Kerry sort of invalidate the idea of a John Kerry test?

Sure, partisans on both sides will now flip-flop on this issue: In 2004, military experience wasn't that important to Republican partisans, while it was a key point for Dems; this time around, it will be the reverse.

But that hardly makes the point in question a valid one. Just demonstrates the hypocrisy of partisans.
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I'd rather have someone with experience in war be the president during wartime.
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I'd rather have someone with experience in war be the president during wartime.

They want somebody who can wave a white flag.
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I'd rather have someone with experience in war be the president during wartime.
My sister was a dyed in the wool liberal democrat & voted for Al Gore in 2000 9/11 she said to me, "I am so glad that Gore did not win the presidency"
She's still a democrat but has toned down on her liberalness (is that a word?) a tad. BTW-She's not one of the nutzoid dems, she ain't votin for Obama.
I wish our presidents all had some experience with military, not necessairly a war, but some experience.
Kerry is the worst excuse I can think of as a military member, along with Weasley Clark.

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I actually believe that.
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Who cares about John Kerry? Seriously.
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I'd rather have someone with experience in war be the president during wartime.
Bush's ineptitude proves the validity of your statement.
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Well, heck with the John Kerry test.

I want the Swiftboater's test. That is the method of a party to downgrade one's military experience.

In 2004, we have a group of veterans who claimed to serve with John Kerry and made claims from anything that he was never there to that his wounds were self-inflected and he put himself in for recognition.

In 2008, we have Wesley Clark stating that being in the military does not give automatic status to being a good President. Now I expect GOPeers to squeal like mad about this comment. But it gets into the concept of whether or not being a POW has anything to do with the tools you want your President to have.

In 2004 John Kerry obviously had more military experience than George Bush and Republicans pooh-poohed it. So when we really get down to it, the military service thing is only used if it happens to benefit your own party. I didn't think John Kerry's military experience made him a better candidate. So I don't buy the same thing either for John McCain.


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