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Old 07-01-2008, 02:22 PM
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Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) plans to slam President Bush’s faith-based program as “a photo op” and a failure on Tuesday, and says he would scrap the office and create a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships that would be a “critical” part of his administration.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11462.html

In his speech on patriotism, Obama jabbed organizations like Move On, by denouncing those who called General Patraeus "General Betray Us". Obama kept rather quiet about the overturn of the ban on handguns in D.C. He pretty much gave the same explanation as Scalia (everybody has right to self defense, but common sense is necessary i.e. don't sell guns to convicts). Obama said that states should have the right to execute a child rapist if they want to. Obama also endorsed a wiretapping bill that was seen as a compromise, which angered Move On and many liberals. Who would have thought that Mr. Liberal Democrat would get in touch with his conservative side? Obama is so ambiguous with so many issues that it is possible for him to take a more conservative stance on the issues. Personally, I would be more than delighted to see that happen. I think that he will change his plan in Iraq and encourage a slower withdrawal, and maybe change his ideas on the capital gains tax, after he was hammered at that debate. But then again, maybe it's wishful thinking.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,1299140.story
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Don't let the slick talker fool ya: he's no centrist.
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If you mean Obama is a centrist as in pass the tax collection plate to the center. Or he is in the center of radical liberalism. Or he is the center of his cult following.
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shouldn't this be in the humor section ?give me a break!!
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Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) plans to slam President Bush’s faith-based program as “a photo op” and a failure on Tuesday, and says he would scrap the office and create a new Council for Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships that would be a “critical” part of his administration.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11462.html

In his speech on patriotism, Obama jabbed organizations like Move On, by denouncing those who called General Patraeus "General Betray Us". Obama kept rather quiet about the overturn of the ban on handguns in D.C. He pretty much gave the same explanation as Scalia (everybody has right to self defense, but common sense is necessary i.e. don't sell guns to convicts). Obama said that states should have the right to execute a child rapist if they want to. Obama also endorsed a wiretapping bill that was seen as a compromise, which angered Move On and many liberals. Who would have thought that Mr. Liberal Democrat would get in touch with his conservative side? Obama is so ambiguous with so many issues that it is possible for him to take a more conservative stance on the issues. Personally, I would be more than delighted to see that happen. I think that he will change his plan in Iraq and encourage a slower withdrawal, and maybe change his ideas on the capital gains tax, after he was hammered at that debate. But then again, maybe it's wishful thinking.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,1299140.story

No....he said he would expand bush's faith based program. Those were his first remarks this morning. Not from the chicago tribune either , from yahoo news.

He's suckin' up....to the evangelicals. I never thought he would suck up this far, the guy is desperate.

Don't buy this crap, the guy is far left.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/...UHqABDg54b.3QA
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Only way you can apply 'centrist' politically to Obama is to stick him in the Chinese Government.
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No....he said he would expand bush's faith based program. Those were his first remarks this morning. Not from the chicago tribune either , from yahoo news.

He's suckin' up....to the evangelicals. I never thought he would suck up this far, the guy is desperate.

Don't buy this crap, the guy is far left.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080701/...UHqABDg54b.3QA
Wasn't quoting it, I was giving you all additional information....
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http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.



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Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate.



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Exactly. There's nowhere to go but to the right.

The point of this thread is that he was considered the most liberal senator. Thus, when he makes a conservative move its a big deal.
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Exactly. There's nowhere to go but to the right.

The point of this thread is that he was considered the most liberal senator. Thus, when he makes a conservative move its a big deal.
It may be a big deal when he comes out in support of a more conservative position than one that he took in the past. However, there is a reason why this doesn't do him much good. Due to the fact that he is making this change during the course of a bid for the presidency, it may simply be his attempt to get elected, in which case he may go back to his far left programs when elected. Or, he could be giving in temporarily, or even permanently, on the more controversial issues in order to get his more moderate liberal policies implemented. The point is that he is still making that move politically, which is not a good thing when it can get you accused of flip-flopping on the issues.
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