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Old 07-10-2008, 06:56 AM
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Since the latest and best indication of how America will like what Democrats do in the white House is what they are doing in Congress, will Obama take a hit thanks to the pathetic Democrat controlled congress he is part of? I know McCain is too, but his party isn't in control of it!
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No, it won't.
For one thing, the public opinion of congress does not match the local public approval of individual congressmen.
And the opinion of the whole congress includes Republicans in congress... and is generally tied to the inability of congress to achieve things the Democrats promised.

Now why would this cause people to vote in such a way that makes those promises even more unlikely?
It's like suggesting I should vote for someone who has an opposite agenda because he's more competent than the person that backs my agenda... That would create a greater net loss for my agenda, would it not?

The approval rating stuff means nothing without greater context.
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Now why would this cause people to vote in such a way that makes those promises even more unlikely?
It's like suggesting I should vote for someone who has an opposite agenda because he's more competent than the person that backs my agenda... That would create a greater net loss for my agenda, would it not?

The approval rating stuff means nothing without greater context.
Agreed, but here is the context! McCain is far more centrist than Bush is and Obama is running like a madman toward the center. If you beleive what each says, they are not ideologically opposed on many issues.
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Once again, the conservatards misrepresent the meaning of the 9-percent rating. It is not the DEMOCRATS in congress ... but CONGRESS as an institution... that get the rating.

But asking for a bit of honesty is apparently hoping for too much.
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Once again, the conservatards misrepresent the meaning of the 9-percent rating. It is not the DEMOCRATS in congress ... but CONGRESS as an institution... that get the rating.

But asking for a bit of honesty is apparently hoping for too much.
"Conservatards" , what are you 10 years old?

Hey pay attention, Democrats control congress right now!
Read up, get educated!
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Once again, the conservatards misrepresent the meaning of the 9-percent rating. It is not the DEMOCRATS in congress ... but CONGRESS as an institution... that get the rating.

But asking for a bit of honesty is apparently hoping for too much.
i actually agree with your statement basically all of them suck but the Dems do control the Congress. I think the point is that America hates both parties.
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It is possible, but the GOP would have to frame it for the public and they have better issues to work with. The public generally doesn't like all the power in a single party's hands. They would want some checks against such an unpopular Congress.

It is Congress as an institution, but a majority of people probably understand that it is the Dems who are currently controlling Congress and doing such a crappy job.
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Agreed, but here is the context! McCain is far more centrist than Bush is and Obama is running like a madman toward the center. If you beleive what each says, they are not ideologically opposed on many issues.
That's why I'm not all that fanatical about the outcome of this election.
Likely SCOTUS appointees are my primary concern, which seperates me from most Americans (though come to think of it, that's far more important- a right-wing SCOTUS could last for decades. Blech).

But they do have significant differences in some economic policies. Obama is far more Keynsian, McCain more supply-side.
While Obama is not using as harsh of rhetoric anymore he is still more on the side of near future removal of troops from Iraq and also more broadly for more non-war diplomacy.

Those are substantial differences from most Americans' perspectives.
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It is possible, but the GOP would have to frame it for the public and they have better issues to work with. The public generally doesn't like all the power in a single party's hands. They would want some checks against such an unpopular Congress.

It is Congress as an institution, but a majority of people probably understand that it is the Dems who are currently controlling Congress and doing such a crappy job.
Mmmm.... no. It's the fact that congress hasn't lived up to its promise of ending the war and fighting the administration that has it at these levels.
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I really doubt it unless the GOP can draw a heavy line between Pelosi/Dean and their inaction on just about everything. Congressional approval ratings often doesn't reflect the local approval rating of individual congressmen. However they have been relatively inactive and are purposefully standing in the way of domestic drilling... obstructive behavior is really nothing new when either party is in control though.
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