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Old 07-10-2008, 09:39 AM
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I've never seen more biased Polls, there poll has Obama winning Arizona.
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I've never seen more biased Polls, there poll has Obama winning Arizona.
I think people are going to be very surprised after election day when Republicans do incredibly well across the board. I really do. President Bush continues to rise in popularity with the Iraq success and the failure of the senate democrats to do anything these last 2 years, other than blame others for problems that face the hard working people of this country.
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What is your claim to its bias?
And even if it is biased, it cannot possibly be the most biased you've seen... unless you've managed to avoid polls with loaded questions or self-selection.

I don't really see where to go from there to see methodology (I get the sad feeling it involves paying), but without that I cannot determine how it is biased.
It appears to be a significant sample selected for a survey asking people who they were planning on voting for at some particular point in time.
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What is your claim to its bias?
And even if it is biased, it cannot possibly be the most biased you've seen... unless you've managed to avoid polls with loaded questions or self-selection.

I don't really see where to go from there to see methodology (I get the sad feeling it involves paying), but without that I cannot determine how it is biased.
It appears to be a significant sample selected for a survey asking people who they were planning on voting for at some particular point in time.
its either biased or flat out insane
why would it claim that obama is winning Arizona?
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What is your claim to its bias?
And even if it is biased, it cannot possibly be the most biased you've seen... unless you've managed to avoid polls with loaded questions or self-selection.

I don't really see where to go from there to see methodology (I get the sad feeling it involves paying), but without that I cannot determine how it is biased.
It appears to be a significant sample selected for a survey asking people who they were planning on voting for at some particular point in time.
A simple primer to the mindset of the ME HATEE OBAMA crew...

If it shows Obama in the lead... it's biased.
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its either biased or flat out insane
why would it claim that obama is winning Arizona?
Lavell, contrary to popular belief, simply because you expect a different result is not evidence of poor methodology. While I agree its surprising, perhaps you could offer something...concrete as proof.
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I've never seen more biased Polls, there poll has Obama winning Arizona.

Well the theories could include that you are right and the poll is biased. Another theory is that the people in Arizona are trying to tell us something about John McCain.
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A simple primer to the mindset of the ME HATEE OBAMA crew...

If it shows Obama in the lead... it's biased.
Obama leading in Arizona in a poll is crazy and you know that.
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I've never seen more biased Polls, there poll has Obama winning Arizona.
No it doesn't. It has Arizona as "too close to call."
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Most polls exist as soil in which to grow news stories. Do a poll then the results of your poll are "news." Polls associated with media organizations, as most are, are always biased. Not necessarily in the questions but in the way the samples are constructed. I've seen major polls where published methodology showed that over 50% of respondents were registered democrats and the rest were republicans and independents. But it doesn't matter. Polls won't matter or mean a thing until it is convention time.
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