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Old 07-18-2008, 12:52 PM
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Beyond Mr. McCain's enormous personal wealth (due primarily, if I understand it correctly, to his wife's enormous personal wealth) and his continued cashing of checks for money he has absolutely no need of, it's clear Mr. McCain has more homework to do.



What the pinhead apparently does not understand is that the social security system was designed to do EXACTLY that.

I swear, if the masses paid as much attention to McCain's utter lack of intellect, his fogged-in brain, and his endless stoooopid statements as it does to Senator Obama's freakin' lapel pin, McCain would have been drummed out of politics decades ago. The man is a total moron.
The Libs have been re-electing Sen. Kennedy for decades.
In between Scotch and sodas I'm sure he's also well versed on Social Security.
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Jealous? How do you get that?
DNC Playbook words like lack of intellect, fogged-in brain and the brilliant analysis "stooopid" -- it's nothing but hate-filled jealosy. Your guy lost in 2000 and 2004. I know it stings, but hang on, you get to vote again very soon.

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Old 07-18-2008, 03:04 PM
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I never said you did. But it was implied earlier in the thread that it should be that way. When you responded to Windigo you by default implied that you agree with said implication.

The fact remains that he is entitled to it, and therefore it is not morally wrong to take it then donate it.
No, that was never implied. And you're just making things up as you go. Stay on topic.

Nor did anybody imply that anything wrong with taking it and donating it.

You're having trouble comprehending the point.

John McCain wants to lead the country. LEAD. He rails against SS. He says it's a disaster. It's broke. He also rails about spending, wasteful spending and unnecessary spending.

As an uber wealthy person who cashes a little gov. check every month, he is a symbol that represents the problem. It's hypocritical. He's part of the problem. He represents greed and selfishness and the unwillingness for anyone to sacrifice even alittle to make the situation better.

As a true leader you want to be a symbol for the solution. You want to show a willingness to sacrifice for the good of all.

John McCain is NOT a leader.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:10 PM
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So by this line of thinking Obama should just tell the government to keep his salary from congress because they are uber wealthy. Don’t sound right does it?
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No, I don't think that McCain or Obama should forgo their salary. I think that he should forgo any pay raises. I honestly don't know if McCain or Obama do that. I know that a number of congressmen do.

If Obama were old enough for SS he should forgo that and the same holds true for the pension.
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No, that was never implied. And you're just making things up as you go. Stay on topic.

Nor did anybody imply that anything wrong with taking it and donating it.

You're having trouble comprehending the point.

John McCain wants to lead the country. LEAD. He rails against SS. He says it's a disaster. It's broke. He also rails about spending, wasteful spending and unnecessary spending.

As an uber wealthy person who cashes a little gov. check every month, he is a symbol that represents the problem. It's hypocritical. He's part of the problem. He represents greed and selfishness and the unwillingness for anyone to sacrifice even alittle to make the situation better.

As a true leader you want to be a symbol for the solution. You want to show a willingness to sacrifice for the good of all.

John McCain is NOT a leader.
So, are you saying that he is not entitled to the check? And, if so, what entitles someone to the check?
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If Obama were old enough for SS he should forgo that and the same holds true for the pension.
Why give up something they have earned? It makes no sense. You are essentially asking them to continue to work forever by asking them to give up entitlements.

So should I give up my Tricare and pay for medical?
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No, that was never implied. And you're just making things up as you go. Stay on topic.
Was it implied in the OP? No! But it was implied in the post whats his name was responding to. Then the other whats his name responded to the first whats his names reply, and it went from there.

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Nor did anybody imply that anything wrong with taking it and donating it.
I would suggest that you read the thread again. Numerious posters have said that it is wrong. Including yourself in the post I am quoting right now.

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You're having trouble comprehending the point.
No, you are having trouble following the conversation.

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John McCain wants to lead the country. LEAD. He rails against SS. He says it's a disaster. It's broke. He also rails about spending, wasteful spending and unnecessary spending.
Yup, and your point? SS is a defunked business, and needs to be replaced. That is the point he makes. Him and everyone else giving up their money will not save it, so why attempt? Why not simply fix it via the proper means?

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As an uber wealthy person who cashes a little gov. check every month, he is a symbol that represents the problem.
No not so much. He gets what is his, then chooses to give it to a people that he feels it can help. He knows giving it back to SS will not help, so he gives it someplace it will.

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It's hypocritical.
Your opinion. And as far as I am considered, it is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty one.

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He's part of the problem.
I don't see it that way. He is one that is trying to solve the problem, and knows that throwing money at it will not fix it.

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He represents greed and selfishness
So giving money to charity, money that you are owed is selfish? BS.

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and the unwillingness for anyone to sacrifice even alittle to make the situation better.
Once again, giving money back to SS is not going to solve the problem.

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As a true leader you want to be a symbol for the solution. You want to show a willingness to sacrifice for the good of all.
A true leader makes the touch choices, even when those choices are not popular. He makes those choices and does not bow to a defunked system such as SS.

You sound as if you know nothing of real leadership.

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You would not know a leader if he smacked you in the face.



Note: I am not a McCain supporter and will not be voting for him. But your accusations are BS.
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The Libs have been re-electing Sen. Kennedy for decades.
In between Scotch and sodas I'm sure he's also well versed on Social Security.
Um. Senator Kennedy isn't a part of this discussion. Try to stay focused.

Do you have any comment about the fact that Mr. McCain has no idea how the social security program is supposed to run?
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DNC Playbook words like lack of intellect, fogged-in brain and the brilliant analysis "stooopid" -- it's nothing but hate-filled jealosy.
Speaking of "brilliant analysis," it's spelled j-e-a-l-o-u-s-y.

You're welcome.

Given your record here of staunchly defending Mr. Bush's every move despite his repeated disastrous failures as a president, it makes sense that you would be just as confused as to why anyone would express sincere doubts and worries about Mr. McCain's lack of mental acuity and his repeated cognitive failures.

I guess "jealous" is Bush-speak for "voter with a brain."
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Speaking of "brilliant analysis," it's spelled j-e-a-l-o-u-s-y.

You're welcome.

Given your record here of staunchly defending Mr. Bush's every move despite his repeated disastrous failures as a president, it makes sense that you would be just as confused as to why anyone would express sincere doubts and worries about Mr. McCain's lack of mental acuity and his repeated cognitive failures.

I guess "jealous" is Bush-speak for "voter with a brain."
Translation: When backed into a corner, attack your opponents spelling, make a brilliant comment on thier brain and then run off.


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