Obama Refuses to Admit Surge Success - Page 6

Windigo · #51 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jovial One

When did I mention a drop of a hat? I believe I said they could be retrained.

Please keep your arguments, such as they are, grounded in facts.

You are going to retrain hundreds of thousands of soldiers into special forces. Where exactly are you going to get the special forces experts to train them. Are you going to ship all of our special forces out of the field to serve as instructors?

The Jovial One · #52 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by glitch

The military leaders. The people Obama should be looking to for military decisions instead of political advisors.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301061,00.html

That WASN'T Gen. Petrayeus in that chopper with him yesterday?

How odd. He had stars on his shoulders and EVERYTHING!

Look. Glitchy. We already got a preznit who rubberstamps his generals, except when he disagrees with them, in which case he fires 'em. We don't NEED another one. We want one who will listen, as Obama clearly is, and then sets the policy. Just like the Constitution SAYS a preznit should.

The Jovial One · #53 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Windigo

You are going to retrain hundreds of thousands of soldiers into special forces. Where exactly are you going to get the special forces experts to train them. Are you going to ship all of our special forces out of the field to serve as instructors?

Here's what you do, Windigo. Go check and see how many troops in Afghanistan are "special forces". Then check and see how many have regular infantry MOS and supply and support and so on. Then, when you actually know what you're talking about, come back and give me a full report.

OK?

JMS · #54 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by superbadbrutha

If it is that successful why are we still in Iraq?

If all is well and the surge has worked, then it is ok for us to leave Iraq because they can handle things now, right?

E.Pluribus Unum

no because, if we have accomplished what we set out to do, we are having good times. dont you want those good times to keep rollin? lets just stay. good times. successful times. time horizon times. mission accomplished times.

farmer_fred · #55 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:44 PM

Actually Obama did give some credit to the surge:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080722...diplomacyobama

You need to broaden your media exposure.

Windigo · #56 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jovial One

Here's what you do, Windigo. Go check and see how many troops in Afghanistan are "special forces". Then check and see how many have regular infantry MOS and supply and support and so on. Then, when you actually know what you're talking about, come back and give me a full report.

OK?

And that means we need a crap load of GI's in Afghanistan why? There is no need for a major troops surge in Afghanistan. The situation on the ground doesn't warrant it. So why do you back Obama's plan of sending our Iraq troops to Afghanistan where they are not needed.

f100supersabr · #57 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JP5

.....even AFTER seeing it with his own eyes. Guess it's hard to see around those political blinders he wears. Cannot admit when he's been proven wrong. This is truly sad and pitiful:

"....when asked if knowing what he knows now, he would support the surge, the senator said no.

"These kinds of hypotheticals are very difficult," he said. "Hindsight is 20/20. But I think that what I am absolutely convinced of is at that time we had to change the political debate because the view of the Bush administration at that time was one that I just disagreed with, and one that I continue to disagree with is to look narrowly at Iraq and not focus on these broader issues."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5417331&page=1

HELLO???? Anybody home up there, Obama???? What a cop-out foolish answer. Pure garblede-goop.

The surge did work at least for now but if The Shrub did not get us into this mess we would never have had to surge.

The Jovial One · #58 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Windigo

And that means we need a crap load of GI's in Afghanistan why? There is no need for a major troops surge in Afghanistan. The situation on the ground doesn't warrant it. So why do you back Obama's plan of sending our Iraq troops to Afghanistan where they are not needed.

That's funny. Did you not get the talking points? McCain says we NEED a Surge in Afghanistan now.

DuH2 · #59 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 07:23 PM

“There is no doubt that the extraordinary work of our U.S. forces has contributed to a lessening of the violence."

Then he tells you they didn't and all they have done is worthless.

He's a joke.

JLB · #60 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DuH2

“There is no doubt that the extraordinary work of our U.S. forces has contributed to a lessening of the violence."

Then he tells you they didn't and all they have done is worthless.

He's a joke.

Who said this?

"I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some people out there in our nation don't have maps and uh, I believe that our, ah, education like such as in South Africa, and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should, uh, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., or should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for our children."

No, it wasn't Obama, it was Miss South Carolina having an OBAMA MOMENT.

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