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Old 07-27-2008, 07:00 AM
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was looking at the 2004 election, no way obama loses any of those states kerry/edwards won, and thats 252.

he'll flip iowa easily, thats 259. 11 electoral votes and you guys are telling me he can't win a combo of nevada, new mexico, colorado, ohio, missouri, virginia, florida, north carolina, indiana to get over 270?

nevada is leaning obama
new mexico obama will win
colorado obama will probably win
ohio is leaning obama
missouri leaning mccain
virginia tossup
florida tossup
nc leaning mccain
indiana tossup

now i know why i have to bet 300 dollars on obama to take home 100. no way mccain wins ohio, missouri, virginia, florida, nc, and indiana. and even if he did, which he won't, obama could just win with nevada and new mexico.
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:03 AM
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that wont flip that 252 though. those are solid obama states, along with iowa. i think mccain being old and white will end up hurting him more.
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We've been over this already. Objectively speaking the election hasn't happened yet and anything can happen from now until then. But things certainly don't look promising for McCain at the moment. (putting it mildly)
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We've been over this already. Objectively speaking the election hasn't happened yet and anything can happen from now until then. But things certainly don't look promising for McCain at the moment. (putting it mildly)

goslash, you from iowa? no chance mccain wins iowa right? you guys were essentially the birth place of the beginning for the obama campaign and all polls show obama up 7-10.
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that wont flip that 252 though. those are solid obama states, along with iowa. i think mccain being old and white will end up hurting him more.
You're obviously underestimating racial prejudices on all sides.

BIG MISTAKE.

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You're obviously underestimating racial prejudices on all sides.

BIG MISTAKE.
i just don't think it'll be a big deal. from what i've gathered, people who think its a big deal are people who want to make it a big deal, and want to place doubt into peoples heads.
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i just don't think it'll be a big deal. from what i've gathered, people who think its a big deal are people who want to make it a big deal, and want to place doubt into peoples heads.
Exaclty. Some people have been conditioned to see racism where there isn't any. Most Americans will judge Obama on his policy and not on his skin color.
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Exaclty. Some people have been conditioned to see racism where there isn't any. Most Americans will judge Obama on his policy and not on his skin color.
That is very true if you're talking about the younger generation of America. Completely FALSE when it comes to the older.

1) How many younger voters will really turn out to vote?

2) Look at the polls on age.

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