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Old 09-11-2004, 06:13 AM
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Default Interesting article in Washington Times.....

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/funct...0-104820-8576r

McAuliffe is claiming Rove set up 60 minutes - insinuating that the White House knew they were fake that's why they released the memos provided by 60 minutes without comment.

Getting better and better......and you may note, I said this a day or two ago - the bit about letting everybody jump onboard before sinking the ship.
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Old 09-11-2004, 06:20 AM
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McAuliffe is claiming Rove set up 60 minutes - insinuating that the White House knew they were fake that's why they released the memos provided by 60 minutes without comment.

Getting better and better......and you may note, I said this a day or two ago - the bit about letting everybody jump onboard before sinking the ship.
Hilarious. Truly Hilarious.

Who listens to McAulliffe anymore? Everytime he opens his mouth, it's a lie. Let's see, CBS is claiming they've been working on this story for 4 years. Dan Rather stands by the documents claiming they are authentic. Looks like McAulliffe is simply pulling excuses out his butt at this point. This one makes him look even more pathetic.
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How could the WH know whether they were authentic? They would not have access to Killian's personal files. What the dems cannot understand is that Bush authorized the release of ALL his military records a long time ago. They couldn't find anything then, so they charge that he had the files purged, or otherwise prevented the release of the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing papers.
The only really new thing in the memos is the charge that Bush defied a direct order. That particular memo has been discredited in many ways.
If Kerry had any class, he would have commended Bush's service to the National Guard. His reluctance to do this makes him look petty and insults everyone who didn't go to Vietnam. His advisers must be incredibly frustrated. And now they are blaming the WH for the memos? Does Kerry believe that Mcauliffe can say anything he wants with no reflection on Kerry?
I think Kerry and his advisers are so full of hate themselves that it prevents them from clearly thinking.
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Default Don't get me wrong.....

I don't believe the White House had anything to do with leaking the fake memos. I do believe that when 60 Minutes sent them to the POTUS a week or so ago for comment - that they knew they were fake. I think that sat around a table and laughed their asses off and decided to release them without comment. Even the white house correspondents thought something was up because some of the staffers were smiling when they handed them out.
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Default The wheels are coming off the cart...

The fact that the Democrats are accusing the Republicans of outsmarting them with this "trick" shows they don't mind admitting not being smart enough to be duped. It's a clear admission of their inferiority, yet they don't even realize they're doing it.

Kerry's backed into a corner now. There is no one else to turn to for help. He's gone through his staff, and now the new guys in the past two weeks have led him back to the Viet Nam albatross. They clearly can't get the focus on anything domestic. He can't seem to be definitive about any issue because there's at least 10 to 12 sound bites that show him contradicting himself which eats away at his credibility.

In the meantime, President Bush is pulling away in the polls. The gap is widening.
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How could the WH know whether they were authentic? They would not have access to Killian's personal files. What the dems cannot understand is that Bush authorized the release of ALL his military records a long time ago. They couldn't find anything then, so they charge that he had the files purged, or otherwise prevented the release of the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing papers.
The only really new thing in the memos is the charge that Bush defied a direct order. That particular memo has been discredited in many ways.
If Kerry had any class, he would have commended Bush's service to the National Guard. His reluctance to do this makes him look petty and insults everyone who didn't go to Vietnam. His advisers must be incredibly frustrated. And now they are blaming the WH for the memos? Does Kerry believe that Mcauliffe can say anything he wants with no reflection on Kerry?
I think Kerry and his advisers are so full of hate themselves that it prevents them from clearly thinking.
Plus.....there's yet one more problem with this alleged "direct order" to take his physical. My husband, who was a pilot during that same time period said orders were not issued to take the flight physicals. They are required IF you want to fly. But there was no "order" given. IF you don't take them, then you get suspended from flight status. Also.....the flight physicals are given each year.....on the pilot's birthdate and anytime during the following 3 months. In Bush's case, he would have had 3 months after his July birthday. This memo was supposedly written by Killian in May.....which would have been 2 months before the 3-month starting period for the flight physical. Besides.....it's all a moot point anyway. Lt. Bush was voluntarily going off flight status. AND he had permission to go to Alabama. Just as he got permission to get out early to go to Harvard. And just like John Kerry got permission to get out of his reserves commitment early to run for Congress. This is simply Dems trying to make a mountain out of a molehill again. And Bush's polls numbers are killing Kerry...so there is a certain amount of desperation. There's no telling what the Dems will pull out of their you-know-what next.
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I don't believe the White House had anything to do with leaking the fake memos. I do believe that when 60 Minutes sent them to the POTUS a week or so ago for comment - that they knew they were fake. I think that sat around a table and laughed their asses off and decided to release them without comment. Even the white house correspondents thought something was up because some of the staffers were smiling when they handed them out.
Ah. Wouldn't that be Divine justice IF ONLY it were true?!! I would have been 100% behind that one: "Oh...you say you're going to smear me with this documents? Hey......go right ahead."

But there's some flaws in your comments. First of all, the White House has "routinely" released everyone of Bush's military records that are handed to them. That's been their policy. Why would you....or CBS....have thought they'd be saved for only CBS's eyes? So, the fact that handed these records out to other news organizations was not unusual.

And secondly.....the Bush WH is saying they have no idea if the documents are real or fake. It's Dan Rather and CBS who are still standing firmly behind them as being authentic. They are not claiming that they were duped by the WH....or anyone else. So, your theory doesn't hold water.
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When this whole thing first came about tb said the WH released the documents themselves and I responded that it was a red herring to show how desperately stupid the dems were. So I still believe it could have happened.
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"Even the white house correspondents thought something was up because some of the staffers were smiling when they handed them out. "

yeah, like you were in the room. Another wacky far-right conspirator.
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