After tonight, Kerry is finished for good.

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But, we have to keep pushing for the next 33 days. The game isn't over till the fat lady sings.

Catz

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I love the smell of napalm in the morning...It smells like victory.

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Bugalugs: "people join the military because they are stupid and gullible."

I think my mates and I are making a drinking game out of it. We haven't hashed out the final version yet, but it will most likely involve taking a shot of Jameson's whenever:

a) Bush utters a Bushism (i.e., "practice their love" or "strategery");

b) Kerry says something contradicting something he's already said.

We plan on being very drunk before it's all over.

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I am not good at predicting the future.

David Letterman was funny last night.....saying that his Mother is going to take a drink everytime Bush mentions the word "flip-flop."

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Kerry made the biggest blunder of all, in the final minutes of the debate. When asked: Under what circumstances would you, senator Kerry commit troops or pre-emptive strikes over a threat to the United States. ONLY WHEN THE THREAT MET GLOBAL APPROVAL, was senator Kerry's answer.

President Bush, caught this statement in mid-air, & replied that he would never seek permission from a foreign country or another nation to protect American lives.

I cant blieve you guys can still vote for that fumbliing idiot. Bush got his aX% kicked like a cheap suit. Not one pundit including Dick Morris has said otherwise. Bye George.

I think Kerry won, and as most of the people on this board posses intelligence and reasons abilities, you'll probably agree regardless of whether or not you liked what he said. From a stricly objective standpoint, Kerry was clearly more articulate, and his answers were overall just better. He was good at balancing defense of himself with attacking Bush, whereas Bush couldn't do anything but say "FLIP FLOP".

Unfortunately, the average American is not a smart person. They like Bush because they could follow what he was saying, and he was more to-the-point. Kerry's answers were better, but also long-winded and difficult to follow at some parts. He missed some great opportunities to humanize himself with a joke / Reaganesque sound bite that he completely ignored in favor of droning on and on in his father time voice. However, I think he beat Bush logically on most points. There were a few, such as bi-lateral talks, where Bush triumphed.

I also loved it how Bush was on the verge of tears when he was talking about the deaths of soldiers in Iraq.

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Here are some polls on the news sites as of around midnight of who won.

CNN: Bush 18% Kerry 79% Even 4%

BBC: Bush 8% Kerry 87% Even 5%

ABC: Bush 36% Kerry 45% Even 17%

MSNBC: Bush 30% Kerry 70%

FOX: Too wimpy to put one up

Though Kerry spoke well..."ONLY WHEN THE THREAT MET GLOBAL APPROVAL" probably wont cut it for a whole lot of people.

Your kidding buckeyewader...Kerry said a bunch of extremely unintelligent with some answers that will go against his campaign.

^sounds like it could hapen easily.