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Old 09-07-2008, 09:16 AM
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You are quoting the Daily Kos as if it's a reputable source? Interesting what you think qualifies as a legitimate source of information.

By the way, the entire post above is all ad hominem and false. I'm going to do us both a favor and ignore it.

How does it feel to be a poster who doesn't know how to handle evidence, do research, and who knowingly posts lies about other posters?

Enjoy.
How does it feel to be a poster who refuses to read well researched articles? How does it feel to be a poster who attacks the source--rather than the ideas?

How does it feel to be in bed politically with fundamentalist extremists?

Unless you have evidence to back your claims that the research in the article is inaccurate, your attack post is just that. Not worth my time.

You've showed no evidence that the information in the article is false or misleading. You calling me a liar is just more of your tactics of blowing smoke without substance. What you think of me is none of my business.

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Old 09-07-2008, 09:17 AM
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I'm amazed at the concern about McCain's judgment .... he took five months to make his choice, he narrowed the field down to two, he had a last stage interview with each candidate, and made his selection. Then, he waited until the last minute, to make sure no more negative information was forthcoming, to announce his decision. Sounds pretty logical to me.

Your accusations against Ms Palin are, frankly, ridiculous. You do not have "numerous professional problems", but rather, a series of relatively unsubstantiated hit pieces, coupled with unproven charges to try to shore up a very weak argument. And, of course, the "lying" accusation doesn't even deserve a response.
I think they're just pissy because McCain took the wind out of Hubris Boy's sails by making his announcement on Friday, and they didn't have months to criticize his choice. Nobody was talking about Obama on Friday. I find that HILARIOUS. McCain made the Dems look like chumps. Poor babies.
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How does it feel to be a poster who refuses to read well researched articles? How doe it feel to be a poster who attacks the source--rather than the ideas?

How does it feel to be in bed politically with fundamentalist extremists?
And just what "well researched article" would you be referring to? Surely, you're not proposing that DailyKOS be taken as a serious reference?

Bring me an idea ... not a fabricated character assassination ... and I'll consider it.
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And just what "well researched article" would you be referring to? Surely, you're not proposing that DailyKOS be taken as a serious reference?

Bring me an idea ... not a fabricated character assassination ... and I'll consider it.

Do the research and get back to me. The writer of this article has done his homework. The Kos article is full of links to sources which back the claims.

I know you naysayers won't even read the article. You're wasting my time.

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Do the research and get back to me. The writer of this article has done his homework.
I have no research to do -- you put liberal propaganda bull(*)(*)(*)(*) out here, become offended when its authenticity is challenged, and then expect me to do the research?

Your input was nothing but a cheap hit piece, and you ought to be ashamed for even considering it to be relevant. So much for intelligent discourse, huh? It's okay to lie as long as you advance your position ... who cares about the truth? Apparently, not you. But then, it's a lot easier to sit behind the keyboard, do a google search until you find some idiot who agrees with you, and then use him as a credible source. Disgusting .....
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I have no research to do -- you put liberal propaganda bull(*)(*)(*)(*) out here, become offended when its authenticity is challenged, and then expect me to do the research?

Your input was nothing but a cheap hit piece, and you ought to be ashamed for even considering it to be relevant. So much for intelligent discourse, huh? It's okay to lie as long as you advance your position ... who cares about the truth? Apparently, not you. But then, it's a lot easier to sit behind the keyboard, do a google search until you find some idiot who agrees with you, and then use him as a credible source. Disgusting .....
Who is getting all pissy and moaney now? Stop whining and do your homework.

Refute the claims the author has researched with evidence of your own.

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How does it feel to be a poster who refuses to read well researched articles? How doe it feel to be a poster who attacks the source--rather than the ideas?

How does it feel to be in bed politically with fundamentalist extremists?

Unless you have evidence to back your claims that the article is inaccurate, your attack post is just that. Not worth my time.
I provided a link to the fact that the article is inaccurate, as well as text from the link. Spare refuted others. I can see you didn't bother to pay attention.

Let me help you again:

1) sloppy, haphazard vetting process - The article is dated September 1, and the information is outdated.

2) going "into seclusion" - link does not substantiate this claim, and in fact, repudiates the claim. Taking the case directly to voters does not equal seclusion.

3) some of the highest per capita earmarks funding - Clearly biased source that does not examine the commensurate Democratic positions.

4) predisposition to cancer - Some 90% of people in the U.S. aged 70+ will experience a melanoma. This does not equate to having a predisposition to cancer.

5) empty acceptance speech that nonetheless had the media swooning - Source does not say what is implied in this sentence.

6) She's a hard-bitten creationist - Source does not substantiate the claim.

7) an abortioNazi - Again, the source does not back up this claim. In fact, it primarily discusses the gas pipeline. It does rehash the now-tired rape in the case of your daughter discussion. Choosing life, in the scenario of YOUR DAUGHTER is different than being an abortinazi who wants to overturn Roe v. Wade. We've discussed this. Personal ethics versus seeking legal changes are two separate issues. If Palin is an abortinazi for saying she would PERSONALLY choose life for her and her family, then SO ARE YOU.

Iraq Oil invasion was "God's will." - Her actual quote:

That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that plan is God's will."

This does not imply certainty. It implies hope that there IS a plan. What exactly do you hope for when you pray for peace?

I'm going to stop there out of boredom, but I can do more, if you'd like.

The article was NOT well-researched. It makes spurious claims that are unsupported by the links.

At least, I take time to read and carefully consider links. That makes one of us.
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Did you actually write this rant, Angel, or did you post it from somewhere else? If you are posting someone else's material, you need to CITE your sources.

If it's YOUR material, you should be aware that your links don't say what you SAY they say.

Take this one:



Here is what it actually says:



Why don't you go read that article. I don't think you did a good job with this post. SLOPPY. VERY SLOPPY.

I'm going to guess that you didn't even bother to check the sources on this cut & paste job you've done here.
Personal attack. JESUS, CATZ. You are the last one to talk to anyone about board ethics! I'm thinking you lost a wad of money when you took the anger management class. It didn't work. Bitterness and rage leak out of everything you post.

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Do the research and get back to me. The writer of this article has done his homework. The Kos article is full of links to sources which back the claims.

I know you naysayers won't even read the article. You're wasting my time.
No, you are wasting our time. You've already stated that the OP was "well-researched." I've refuted that claim several times, and you've ignored it. NOw, you proclaim that the Daily Kos (which broke the story about Sarah Palin's falsified pregnancy) is a bastion of truth and research.

Yeah. I guess that is "wind-speak" for "says what I want to hear."
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Personal attack. JESUS, CATZ. You are the last one to talk to anyone about board ethics! I'm thinking you lost a wad of money when you took the anger management class. It didn't work. Bitterness and rage leak out of everything you post.

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Actually, THE ABOVE is a personal attack. My comments to angel attacked her incredibly sloppy and poorly researched post.

Do you have something to say about that article, and its links to nowhere? Or, did you even bother to click the links?

I strongly suspect that Angel's post was cut/pasted from elsewhere without a source. And, that Angel didn't bother to check the links, because if she/he had, he/she would not have posted the article. The links DO NOT SUBSTANTIATE the claims made.

Saying this is not ad hominem. It's being intellectually thorough.

But thanks for the incredibly substantive contribution here. I can see why you chose your avatar. It's truly representative of your posts.
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