New York Becoming a Close Race?

TheHat · #1 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:23 AM

Check this story out.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008..._ny_129211.htm

McCain is making serious in-roads there.

I highly doubt he wins it in the end, but for it to be even close is a very good indication of what could happen nationwide.

New York is in financial upheavel, they pay high taxes, and yet are in the hole. Their Congressman, Charlie Rangel is having tax issues, and taxes, which are some of the highest, if not the highest, is being misspent. New Jersey's Governor as far as I know been trying to cut spending, John Cornine-D.

Mix in Obama's plan to tax companies making more then $250K, at this point in time I can see why the race there is getting closer to a toss up, along with individual taxes going up if you make alot of money, this could be a recipe for more disaster for New York.

At least, enough of an attention grabber to make people look toweard McCain to give 2nd thought.

I seriously doubt McCain can win New York, but if New York is that close, then that is a very good indication of what is going to play out across the rest of the nation, simply b/c of the ratio of Democrats to Republicans there.

Time will tell, but if Obama has to spend money in New York, that takes away from other battleground states. And with him having money issues as of late, that is a huge plus for McCain if Obama is having to spend money in a Democratic stronghold like New York.

BroncoBilly · #2 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHat

Check this story out.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008..._ny_129211.htm

McCain is making serious in-roads there.

I highly doubt he wins it in the end, but for it to be even close is a very good indication of what could happen nationwide.

New York is in financial upheavel, they pay high taxes, and yet are in the hole. Their Congressman, Charlie Rangel is having tax issues, and taxes, which are some of the highest, if not the highest, is being misspent. New Jersey's Governor as far as I know been trying to cut spending, John Cornine-D.

Mix in Obama's plan to tax companies making more then $250K, at this point in time I can see why the race there is getting closer to a toss up, along with individual taxes going up if you make alot of money, this could be a recipe for more disaster for New York.

At least, enough of an attention grabber to make people look toweard McCain to give 2nd thought.

I seriously doubt McCain can win New York, but if New York is that close, then that is a very good indication of what is going to play out across the rest of the nation, simply b/c of the ratio of Democrats to Republicans there.

Time will tell, but if Obama has to spend money in New York, that takes away from other battleground states. And with him having money issues as of late, that is a huge plus for McCain if Obama is having to spend money in a Democratic stronghold like New York.

If this could possibly happen in California, McCain/Palin will become our next president/vice president. Yahoo!!!!

MasTequila · #3 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:27 AM

I am seeing Electoral College maps that used to be a landslide Obama win, now showing McCain winning 270-268 or 285-253 and most states that were leaning Obama now in a toss-up (less than the Margin of Error). I think the new Obama theme song should be "Free Falling" by Tom Petty.

superdude17* · #4 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:39 AM

Almost all states are becoming a close race. Back home in Washington State, my dad tells me that McCain fever has hit. Obama is barely winning by 2 points in a mostly liberal state.

He will be lucky if he wins 10 states.

XVZ · #5 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:52 AM

If the current trends continue, Vermont and California will be Obama's only "wins". Recall that Obama's free fall started before either of the conventions. Obama's DNC "Clinton bounce" was just a tree branch getting in the way of Obama's fall.

PatriotNews · #6 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by superdude17*

Almost all states are becoming a close race. Back home in Washington State, my dad tells me that McCain fever has hit. Obama is barely winning by 2 points in a mostly liberal state.

He will be lucky if he wins 10 states.

Remember, it wasn't that long ago when the EC map looked like this!

MasTequila · #7 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XVZ

If the current trends continue, Vermont and California will be Obama's only "wins". Recall that Obama's free fall started before either of the conventions. Obama's DNC "Clinton bounce" was just a tree branch getting in the way of Obama's fall.

Sorry to say he will win Illinois, I live here and my home state is as liberal as they get.

TheHat · #8 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:41 AM

Well it is even getting worse for Rangel up there.

Check this out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/.../rangel_ethics

Quote:

More errors for Rangel; to hire new accountant

WASHINGTON - A new set of potential problems in Rep. Charles Rangel's financial papers has prompted the tax-writing lawmaker to decide to hire a forensic accounting expert to try to unravel the mess.

Rangel, chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, is already the subject of ethics committee investigations on several fronts, including unreported income and unpaid taxes on his beach house in the Dominican Republic.

Those issues and others have led the New York Democrat to choose to hire an expert to pore over Rangel's finances over the past 20 years, and issue a report to the House ethics committee. The congressman has not yet enlisted someone for the task.

Rangel's lawyer, Lanny Davis, said the move shows Rangel "has nothing to hide and does not believe he has done anything intentionally wrong."

The accountant's report will not be reviewed by Rangel or his advisers before it is given to the committee "as quickly as possible," Davis said. The lawmaker also promised that once the report is complete, he will publicly release his tax returns for the past 20 years.

The tax issue is particularly embarrassing for a lawmaker whose job is to guide new tax law. Rangel is resisting calls from Republicans that he should lose his committee post, among the most coveted on Capitol Hill.

As more questions have been raised about Rangel's records, his lawyers and accountants have uncovered new discrepancies in the personal financial disclosure documents that he files every year to Congress. Every lawmaker is required to file such paperwork disclosing major assets.

Rangel said in a statement he became aware of the issues over the weekend while working with his attorneys and staff. "While over the years I delegated to my staff the completion of my annual House financial disclosure statements, I had the ultimate responsibility. I owed my colleagues and the public adherence to a higher standard of care not only as a member of Congress but even more as the chair of the House Ways and Means Committee," he said.

Among the new discrepancies:

_Rangel's papers over the past 10 years show no reference to the sale of a home he once owned on Colorado Avenue in Washington.

_The details of a property bought in Sunny Isles, Fla., are bewildering at best. The stated value changes significantly from year to year, and even page to page, from $50,000 to $100,000 all the way up to $500,000.

_Some of the entries for investment funds fluctuate strangely, suggesting that the person either didn't have accurate information or didn't fill out the paperwork correctly.

Rangel spent the past week trying to answer questions about his ethics and his finances.

He acknowledged that he owes the Internal Revenue Service about $5,000 in back taxes for unreported income from the rental of his vacation villa, and probably a smaller amount to state and city tax collectors.

The congressman acknowledged he made mistakes but said they were errors of omission and should not lead to the loss of his high position in Congress.

The home in the Dominican Republic has proven a major embarrassment to the 78-year-old Rangel, who conceded he never reported the rental income over a 20-year period, received a no-interest mortgage on the place for more than half that time and claims to have no idea what it is worth today.

The ethics committee is also investigating Rangel's rental of three rent-stabilized apartments in his home district of Harlem, as well as his use of official congressional stationery to try to find private donors for a college center named after the lawmaker.

How much do Congressmen make again?

Why is he still the head of that commission? Had this been a Repulican, he would have been long gone and deep sixed by Democrats. Where is this in national news?

XVZ · #9 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MasTequila

Sorry to say he will win Illinois, I live here and my home state is as liberal as they get.

That would constitute obtaining electoral votes by default because Obama is the homeboy and does not deserve the title of a "win"

Oxymoron · #10 (**permalink**) 09-15-2008, 07:48 AM

I dont think McCain has a chance in NY, nonetheless he has a good chance in NJ.

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