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From Obama's Senate website regarding his voting records. Descriptions shown below on the legislations are copied and pasted directly from the website. There is no editing...this information is verbatim.

Voted NO: To ensure that every motor carrier entering the United States through the cross-border motor carrier demonstration program is inspected and meets all applicable safety standards established for United States commercial motor vehicles.

Voted NO: To increase access to health insurance for low-income children based on actual need, as adjusted for cost-of-living.

Voted NO: To minimize the erosion of private health coverage.

Voted NO: To provide standards for clean coal-derived fuels.

Voted NO: To require the enforcement of existing border security and immigration laws and Congressional approval before amnesty can be granted.

Voted NO: To address documentation of employment and to make an amendment with respect to mandatory disclosure of information.

Voted NO: To save American taxpayers up to $24 billion in the 10 years after passage of this Act, by preventing the earned income tax credit, which is, according to the Congressional Research Service, the largest anti-poverty entitlement program of the Federal Government, from being claimed by Y temporary workers or illegal aliens given status by this Act until they adjust to legal permanent resident status.

Voted NO: To amend title 4, United States Code, to declare English as the national language of the Government of the United States, and for other purposes.

Voted NO: To prioritize Federal spending to ensure the needs of Louisiana residents who lost their homes as a result of Hurricane Katrina and Rita are met before spending money to design or construct a nonessential visitors center.

Voted NO: To establish a Water Resources Commission to prioritize water resources projects in the United States.

Voted YES: To express the sense of the Senate that Congress must send to the President acceptable legislation to continue funds for Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom by not later than May 28, 2007.

Voted NO: To amend the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to facilitate information sharing between federal and local law enforcement officials related to an individual's immigration status.

Voted NO: To prohibit congressional earmarks of funds appropriated pursuant to authorizations in the bill.

Voted NO: A bill to intensify research to derive human pluripotent stem cell lines.

Voted NO: To provide farm assistance in a fiscally responsible manner.

Voted NO: To strike language that would tie the hands of the Commander-in-Chief by imposing an arbitrary timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq, thereby undermining the position of American Armed Forces and jeopardizing the successful conclusion of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Voted NO: To extend the 35, 33, 28, and 25 percent income tax rate structure and protect nearly 28,000,000 families and individuals, including small business owners, from having their tax rates increase to 39.6, 36, 31, or 28 percent.

Voted NO: To prevent the adding of extraneous earmarks to an emergency war supplemental.

Voted NO: To improve the economy, efficiency, and effectiveness of Federal programs and reduce the Federal debt by eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse.

Voted NO: To reform the death tax by setting the exemption at $5 million per estate, indexed for inflation, and the top death tax rate at no more than 35% beginning in 2010; to avoid subjecting an estimated 119,200 families, family businesses, and family farms to the death tax each and every year; to promote continued economic growth and job creation; and to make the enhanced teacher deduction permanent.

Voted NO: To protect families, family farms and small businesses by raising the death tax exemption to $5 million and reducing the maximum death tax rate to no more than 35%, to extend college tuition deduction, to extend the student loan interest deduction, to extend the teacher classroom deduction, to protect senior citizens from higher taxes on their retirement income, to maintain U.S. financial market competitiveness, and to promote economic growth by extending the lower tax rates on dividends and capital gains.

Voted NO: To provide for a budget point of order against legislation that increases income taxes on taxpayers, including hard-working middle-income families, entrepreneurs, and college students.

Voted NO: To pay down the Federal debt and eliminate government waste by reducing spending on programs rated ineffective by the Program Assessment Rating Tool.

Voted NO: To require wealthy Medicare beneficiaries to pay a greater share of their Medicare Part D premiums.

Voted NO: To provide budget levels to extend through 2012 the production tax credit for electricity produced from renewable resources, the Clean Renewable Energy Bonds, and energy tax provisions for energy efficient buildings and power plants.

Voted NO: To provide for true deficit reduction in appropriation bills.

Voted NO: To require the Secretary of Homeland Security to develop regulations regarding the transportation of high hazard materials, and for other purposes.

Voted NO: To strengthen the security of cargo containers.

Voted NO: To make permanent certain education-related tax incentives.

Voted NO: To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 income tax increase on Social Security benefits.

Voted NO: To improve access to affordable health care.

Voted NO: To afford States the rights and flexibility to determine minimum wage.

Voted No: To provide Congress a second look at wasteful spending by establishing enhance rescission authority under fast-track procedures.

Voted NO: To strengthen earmark reform.

Voted NO: to prohibit authorized committees and leadership PACs from employing the spouse or immediate family members of any candidate or Federal office holder connected to the committee.
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Voted NO: To require the enforcement of existing border security and immigration laws and Congressional approval before amnesty can be granted.
TREASON.

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Voted NO: To increase access to health insurance for low-income children based on actual need, as adjusted for cost-of-living.

Voted NO: To minimize the erosion of private health coverage.

Voted NO: To improve access to affordable health care.
Clearly there was a conflict of interest in these votes. He couldn't vote for anything that would undermine his presidential campaign message of providing affordable health care.
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TREASON.


Clearly there was a conflict of interest in these votes. He couldn't vote for anything that would undermine his presidential campaign message of providing affordable health care.

Maybe yes...maybe no...you can read for yourself at his Senate website. I copied and pasted 'all' the description that was provided in summary.
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No surprise that no one reads this thread, yet we have 27 threads discussing the color of each candidates mood ring.
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No surprise that no one reads this thread, yet we have 27 threads discussing the color of each candidates mood ring.
Obama supporters don't think one's record is any reflection of how they will govern. One only needs to look at their candidates campaign rhetoric!

It would be hilarious if it was not so utterly sad.
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Obama supporters don't think one's record is any reflection of how they will govern. One only needs to look at their candidates campaign rhetoric!

It would be hilarious if it was not so utterly sad.
Don't worry, its neither, and its quite safe to say you can't speak for Obama, his supporters, or his campaign.

No link Oldman? This seems remarkably suspect in my opinion- not to mention probably intellectually fraudulent to summarise things so simply...and they're showing their colours if they're using the BS terminology of the right-wing; "death tax"? Curious and curiouser, wonder if this is just another lie.
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Certainly not this site:

http://obama.senate.gov/votes/109/
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Don't worry, its neither, and its quite safe to say you can't speak for Obama, his supporters, or his campaign.
Haha! Previous record is no indication of future record you say. Is this official liberal doctrine?

And by the way, I do not need to speak "for" Obama to point out his record. Sheesh!

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Oh no its is- for instance, from what I've seen Obama will continue to do well and vote intelligently; his opponents will contonue to smear and distort that record; ravens like yourself will continue to blindly gorge yourself on that, and partisans will never answer posts fully.

Seeing as you've gone along with the OP, perhaps you can direct me to the site he refers to?

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And by the way, I do not need to speak "for" Obama to point out his record. Sheesh!
Indeed, its more of a cover for where you proabably already have/will do so, plus it flows better . This is edging onto it btw, using such a twisted list as though it 'speaks' for him.

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Oh no its is- for instance, from what I've seen Obama will continue to do well and vote intelligently; his opponents will contonue to smear and distort that record; ravens like yourself will continue to blindly gorge yourself on that, and partisans will never answer posts fully.

Seeing as you've gone along with the OP, perhaps you can direct me to the site he refers to?
You can do your own research, but I don't see why you need to bother. You seem think Obama already votes intelligently which suggests to me that you have viewed his voting record already. Please tell me you didn't just make that comment out of a hope and prayer that he votes intelligently.
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