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Old 10-07-2004, 12:22 PM
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this is what Senator John F. Kerry had to say about Saddam Hussein in 1997....before George W. Bush ever came on the scene. So....how is what Senator John F. Kerry thought and believed about Saddam Hussein Bush's fault???:

"In a more practical vein, Mr. President, I submit that the old adage `pay now or pay later' applies perfectly in this situation. If Saddam Hussein is permitted to go about his effort to build weapons of mass destruction and to avoid the accountability of the United Nations, we will surely reap a confrontation of greater consequence in the future. The Security Council and the United States obviously have to think seriously and soberly about the plausible scenarios that could play out if he were permitted to continue his weapons development work after shutting out U.N. inspectors.

There can be little or no question that Saddam has no compunctions about using the most reprehensible weapons — on civilians as readily as on military forces. He has used poison gas against Iranian troops and civilians in the Iran-Iraq border conflict. He has launched Scud missiles against Israel and against coalition troops based in Saudi Arabia during the gulf war.

It is not possible to overstate the ominous implications for the Middle East if Saddam were to develop and successfully militarize and deploy potent biological weapons. We can all imagine the consequences. Extremely small quantities of several known biological weapons have the capability to exterminate the entire population of cities the size of Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. These could be delivered by ballistic missile, but they also could be delivered by much more pedestrian means; aerosol applicators on commercial trucks easily could suffice. If Saddam were to develop and then deploy usable atomic weapons, the same holds true."

.........Kerry continues.....

"While our actions should be thoughtfully and carefully determined and structured, while we should always seek to use peaceful and diplomatic means to resolve serious problems before resorting to force, and while we should always seek to take significant international actions on a multilateral rather than a unilateral basis whenever that is possible, if in the final analysis we face what we truly believe to be a grave threat to the well-being of our Nation or the entire world and it cannot be removed peacefully, we must have the courage to do what we believe is right and wise." John Kerry.

Well, Mr. Kerry......"in the final analysis" we DID truly believe him to be a grave threat to our well-being and our nation(including YOU)......and we DID have the 'courage' to do what we believed to be right and wise.......JUST LIKE YOU SAID WE SHOULD.
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Has kerry ever explained why he voted against the first gulf war?
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Default Actually, Kjs,

He was for it at the same time that he was against it:

Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the US against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted in favor of a resolution that would have insisted that economic sanctions be given more time to work and against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war."

--letter from Senator John Kerry to Wallace Carter of Newton Centre, Massachusetts, dated January 22 [1991]

"Thank you very much for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush in response to the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait. From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush's response to the crisis and the policy goals he has established with our military deployment in the Persian Gulf."

--Senator Kerry to Wallace Carter, January 31 [1991]
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Source: http://www.tnr.com/etc.mhtml?pid=1261 (The New Republic, just another one of my "conservative sources."

I should note that these quotes are from an article written by a New Republic columnist who was very much anti-Kerry and pro-Dean during the Democratic primaries. He assessed Kerry as follows during the primary: "Monday I dwelled a bit on one of John Kerry's many yet-to-be-exploited-but-blindingly-obvious vulnerabilities: his vote on the 1991 Gulf war. I noted in that post that the vote could be potentially devastating to Kerry, not so much because it portrays him as soft on national security, but because it makes him look like he takes whichever side of whatever issue happens to be most politically advantageous."

Heh. That sounds familiar.

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Default YOU UNDERLINED ONLY HALF OF THE QUOTE!!!!

Take another look at his quote Please!


"While our actions should be thoughtfully and carefully determined and structured, while we should always seek to use peaceful and diplomatic means to resolve serious problems BEFORE RESORTING TO FORCE, and while we should always seek to take significant international actions on a multilateral rather than a unilateral basis whenever that is possible, IF in the final analysis we face what we truly believe to be a grave threat to the well-being of our Nation or the entire world and it cannot be removed peacefully, we must have the courage to do what we believe is right and wise."
John Kerry.

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Well, Mr. Kerry......"in the final analysis" we DID truly believe him to be a grave threat to our well-being and our nation(including YOU)......and we DID have the 'courage' to do what we believed to be right and wise.......JUST LIKE YOU SAID WE SHOULD.
Again you've misrepresented what he has said...just as Bush and his administration have been doing. Bush skipped over the part where we become carefully determined and structured. Bush skipped over the part where we seek to use peaceful and diplomatic means to resolve serious problems BEFORE RESORTING TO FORCE. Bush skipped over the part where we seek to take significant international actions on a multilateral rather than a unilateral basis. The final analysis was that Bush wanted to go to war regardless of the UN inspections, regardless of the absent ties to 9/11 and terrorism, regardless of the threat Saddam may or may not of posed directly upon our nation. He made assumptions while skipping over the details, and now we have a mess on our hands...thanks to Bush. If you are going to try and deduce a Kerry quote, at least take the time to try and comprehend the entire thing next time!!!
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Thanks catz, he apparently hasn't changed any over the years.
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