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Default Comprehensive Survey of Economists Favors Obama's Plan

I've been waiting to see the results of this...take a look. Very interesting.

"Overall, 59 percent of our economists say Obama would be best for the economy long term, with 31 percent picking McCain, and 8 percent saying there would be no difference."

http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/di...of_economists/
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I've been waiting to see the results of this...take a look. Very interesting.

"Overall, 59 percent of our economists say Obama would be best for the economy long term, with 31 percent picking McCain, and 8 percent saying there would be no difference."

http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/di...of_economists/
The below likely has a big influence on the results, I have to question how valid the results are. I stand with the 8% who say there is no difference between the two.

Almost half (48%) of the economists say they are registered Democrats.
Only one in six (17%) are registered Republicans. Twenty-seven percent
are registered as Independents.
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Come on...the more I read this "study" the less valid it becomes.

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Twenty-seven percent of economists say they are “very familiar” with John McCain’s economic program. In total, 90% say they are at least “somewhat familiar” with this program.
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I've been waiting to see the results of this...take a look. Very interesting.

"Overall, 59 percent of our economists say Obama would be best for the economy long term, with 31 percent picking McCain, and 8 percent saying there would be no difference."

http://www.dilbert.com/blog/entry/di...of_economists/
Yup, it's been said for a while, the righties just don't want to see or acknowledge it.
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Three in ten economists say they are “very familiar” with Barack Obama’s economic program. In total, 91% say they are at least “somewhat familiar” with this program.
and only 30% "very familiar" with Barack's plan?

THESE are "experts" in a "comprehensive" survey?
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Another important bit of info is found on the CNN link.
There you can see what specific issues were considered to be the high priorities by the most economists. That makes it a bit easier to tell what they were looking for overall.
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65% work in the field of academia or education.
Major funders of the Obama campaign.

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88% of Democratic economists think Obama would be best, while 80% of Republican economists pick McCain.
Economists toeing the party line, clearly an unbias study

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Among Independents, things are less clear, with 54% thinking that in the long run there would either be no difference between the candidates or McCain would do better.
Also lets take a look at who commisioned this report.
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Major funders of the Obama campaign.


Economists toeing the party line, clearly an unbias study



Also lets take a look at who commisioned this report.
LOL, what a joke of a study....lol.

They dont even know what the policies are...lol.
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We can laugh at the fact that Scott Adams is the name on this study, but he only paid for it to be done. It was performed buy The OSR Group. As for Adams, he describes himself as "lean Libertarian, minus the crazy stuff."

This is Scott Adam's opinion on both major candidates:

"Moneywise, I can't support a candidate who promises to tax the bejeezus out of my bracket, give the windfall to a bunch of clowns with a 14 percent approval rating (Congress), and hope they spend it wisely.

"Unfortunately, the alternative to the guy who promises to pillage my wallet is a lukewarm cadaver. I'm in trouble either way."


He indicates that most economists are registered as either Democrats or independents, and the survey reflects this.

There was also this which I found interesting:

One interesting item I found... of the Independent economists, they lean toward Obama by 46 percent compared to 39 percent for McCain.

I personally have no opinion on the methodology of the study. I note that the sample size is larger than it needs to be for reasonable statistical accuracy. I also note that the sample is a representative cross-section of how economists are registered. I found it interesting that most economists are registered as Democrats or Independents.

"Here are the economic priorities according to the economists. The percentages indicate how many rated each issue eight or higher on a scale of 1-10.

71 percent -- Education

67 percent -- Health care

62 percent -- International trade

60 percent -- Energy

58 percent -- Encouraging technology and innovation

58 percent -- Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and homeland security

52 percent -- Mortgage and housing crisis

49 percent -- Social Security

45 percent -- Environmental policy

39 percent -- Reducing the deficit

37 percent -- Immigration

29 percent -- Increasing the proportion of taxes paid by the wealthy

28 percent -- Reducing waste in government

16 percent -- Tax relief for the middle class

15 percent -- Reducing capital gains tax

14 percent -- Extending unemployment insurance

13 percent -- Extending and strengthening the unemployment insurance system

13 percent -- Raising the minimum wage and indexing it to inflation

11 percent -- Reforming bankruptcy laws

9 percent -- Eliminating the estate tax"


So, there's some things to learn that are interesting if you read it carefully and weigh it properly. There are items that are skewed and items that are not skewed.
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Good observations Dues, the whole thing isn't total garbage, but as with all information it needs to be taken with a grain of salt unless you've done the appropriate vetting of it's sources.

Since 'economists' typically lean left they could have balanced this with the perspective of a few corporate CFO's, he actually does mention why the opinion of CEO's was not used, due to the obvious conflict of interest due to their responsibility to stock holders.
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