I think the best we can hope for is that Obama pulls his head out of his rear when negotiating with Foreign officials. Something Bush never did.

Obama will do just fine.

You'll see soon enough.

You mean Obama was able to write down his brainwashed ideology? No way!

Please tell me what experience Obama has had that has built up his character and wisdom.

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So people who read books can't make up their own mind about what they read? The text is actually able to enter the mind and alter it? this only occurs with people that don't have critical skills and are not able to discern what they would agree with or disagree with. So, in a way, I take your claim as an insult. I can be critical and have been of a few of Obama's policies. Thing is, I'm not a one or two issue voter and find larger concerns that Obama has addressed and I agree with them. It's funny that when someone disagrees with you, they are "brainwashed." HAHA. There are a number of threads that have already been posted with Obama's experience. Also, his decision to pick a good running mate has been a sign of wisdom, unlike McCain. Furthermore, where his life story is a story of built character. For example, he could of worked on wall street. Instead, he CHOSE to work for the poor and working class in Chicago for pennies. Sorry dude, you are ignoring tons of stuff in respect to this man who will be a great great president.

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By this standard I must assume all politicians, academics, etc. are merely regurgitating their "ideology" uncritically. I cannot provide proof of anything to you if this is your standard... much less can you challenge your own beliefs by actually looking into Obama's past works.
The pity is that you do not hold this skepticism constant across the field.

Community organizing is much like running a government... only without the backing of government. Being a scholar on Constitutional Law is quite an experience for the kind of intellect and understanding it takes to run a country.
A small but active stay in Illonois politics... a short but productive run in Washington (in which, contrary to lies regurgitated by the "hottest governor", he had his name on 3 major bills)...
Not to mention his life story, if we go on that, must have produced insights most of us will never be able to come to...

But why am I wasting my breath? You've either looked into it or not. It really does not matter. You do not apply the same level of skepticism to your own candidates... or you really don't care about all this "character" and "experience" crap and only use it (and the intellectually dishonest frames that the right has built around it) to achieve your political end.

Either way, I have wasted a few seconds I will never get back typing this.

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That information is classified and to be given only on a need-to-know basis...

And I do not need to know.

I pity you for blindly accepting a man's rhetoric with no record to back it up! Record is the most important thing to look at when considering a candidate. Their (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) could be any old BS they want to spew to try to get elected. Take Barky's bipartisanship claim for example. What a total load of stink! He has no record of bipartisanship and is one of the most extreme liberals around!

OMG, you just lost all credibility with me.

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Well I would sya that is a wrong position. We do know their ideas and plans, why not take each one and debate the validity and pitfalls of said position.I mean its much more fun to throw (*)(*)(*)(*) around but how many threads do we need like that?

Obama picks his nose, McCain doesnt wash hands after going to the bathroom are these the kind of threads we must endure for another 2 months?

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Ideology: Self Preservation.

You sound like quite a rational human being. Too bad I know better Mr Theologist. You will not convince me that Obama is rational. He is on the record as saying even if he knows that tax increases will bring in less revenue he is still for it because it is the "fair" thing to do. All emotion against rich people and no rationality as to what would be good for the country.

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I take it you don't have a good rebuttal.

He posts stuff like this thread, and you expect a rebuttal to clear logic???

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--President-elect Barack Obama
November 5, 2008

Are you suggesting that nose picking and hand washing are on the level of pointing out a candidates ineptness and inablity to articulate a position without a teleprompter? I would like you to go on record with this or explain why you brought those two childish things up in this thread.

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