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Old 09-16-2008, 08:55 PM
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McCain, who is 71, has received benefits since he was 65.

In 2007, he received benefits of $23,157 from Social Security, approximately $1,930 a month. The maximum monthly benefit under Social Security is $2,185. Social Security benefits are determined by age at retirement.

So McCain is entitled to collect is old age benefits - he's of the right age.

But is that right?

Should be receiving social security for retirement when he's not even retired?

The Social Security he receives is in addition to his current salary as a U.S. Senator that is in the range of $180,000 plus and does not including his Senatorial pensions.

In 2006, McCain's wife Cindy earned $6 million, and has a net worth of approximately $100 million. If anyone in America doesn’t need $1,900 a month – it is John McCain.

For someone who claims to be so AGAINST the social security system, he sure didn’t miss a heartbeat to sign up and get his money.

If the system is so broken, why make it worse by participating? It is not mandatory that he collect the money.
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Old 09-16-2008, 09:10 PM
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McCain, who is 71, has received benefits since he was 65.

In 2007, he received benefits of $23,157 from Social Security, approximately $1,930 a month. The maximum monthly benefit under Social Security is $2,185. Social Security benefits are determined by age at retirement.

So McCain is entitled to collect is old age benefits - he's of the right age.

But is that right?

Should be receiving social security for retirement when he's not even retired?

The Social Security he receives is in addition to his current salary as a U.S. Senator that is in the range of $180,000 plus and does not including his Senatorial pensions.

In 2006, McCain's wife Cindy earned $6 million, and has a net worth of approximately $100 million. If anyone in America doesn’t need $1,900 a month – it is John McCain.

For someone who claims to be so AGAINST the social security system, he sure didn’t miss a heartbeat to sign up and get his money.

If the system is so broken, why make it worse by participating? It is not mandatory that he collect the money.
It gives him joy to screw the public and other retirees just that little bit extra, I suppose. He rages against the machine, yet keeps mum about taking all he can while he can, even when he clearly does not need it. Wotta guy!

This is just one more example of how John McCain is in it for himself, and no one else.

Nothing new here. *yawn*
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If you truly believe this....then why aren't you calling on all the fat-cat Dems (like Bill & Hillary Clinton) who tell us the "rich" should be paying more in taxes, to just simply NOT take the deductions they have coming on their Schedule A's and to pay in more money to the federal gov't? After all, nothing says they have to take them.
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If Obama cares about poverty, why does his brother live off of a dollar a day.
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If you truly believe this....then why aren't you calling on all the fat-cat Dems (like Bill & Hillary Clinton) who tell us the "rich" should be paying more in taxes, to just simply NOT take the deductions they have coming on their Schedule A's and to pay in more money to the federal gov't? After all, nothing says they have to take them.
I just wanted to quote the above so I could read it again and bask in it's eloquence. ::sigh:: I wish I could argue like this.... A few shots of rum and a joint and maybe I can.

Aside from having nothing to do with SS or the fact that it's tripe factor is off the chart it's probably the best thing yet from you tonight.

to the OP (I just learned that tonight, learning... it's when you find out something that you didnt know before by asking questions, now you are learning, doesnt it feel good?)

McCain gets SS. He isnt doing anything Illegal, we should change that, somehow, wish I was smart enough to tell you how. I don't think the original intention of SS was to add to the income of those who clearly don't need it. But in the end if you pay in then you can withdrawal out so he is doing nothing wrong.
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If you truly believe this....then why aren't you calling on all the fat-cat Dems (like Bill & Hillary Clinton) who tell us the "rich" should be paying more in taxes, to just simply NOT take the deductions they have coming on their Schedule A's and to pay in more money to the federal gov't? After all, nothing says they have to take them.
Well, I do believe the rich should pay more in taxes, AND take less from the commons. If Bill and Hillary Clinton are collecting Social Security payments, they should also refuse to take the money, or donate it all to some elder charity or similar. They don't need it just like McCain doesn't need it.

Yes, you can believe it. I'm a Democrat and I'm against ANYONE taking (*)(*)(*)(*) they don't freakin' need, when so many others are desperate - party affiliation be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

There.

Now who are you going to whine about?
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Well, I do believe the rich should pay more in taxes, AND take less from the commons. If Bill and Hillary Clinton are collecting Social Security payments, they should also refuse to take the money, or donate it all to some elder charity or similar. They don't need it just like McCain doesn't need it.

Yes, you can believe it. I'm a Democrat and I'm against ANYONE taking (*)(*)(*)(*) they don't freakin' need, when so many others are desperate - party affiliation be (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.

There.

Now who are you going to whine about?
I just checked and he is not on SS. But he is only 62 so that's not really surprising.

I too am against taking money you don't need and posting nonsensical, hate filled rants that no one needs.
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McCain, who is 71, has received benefits since he was 65.

In 2007, he received benefits of $23,157 from Social Security, approximately $1,930 a month. The maximum monthly benefit under Social Security is $2,185. Social Security benefits are determined by age at retirement.

So McCain is entitled to collect is old age benefits - he's of the right age.

But is that right?

Should be receiving social security for retirement when he's not even retired?

The Social Security he receives is in addition to his current salary as a U.S. Senator that is in the range of $180,000 plus and does not including his Senatorial pensions.

In 2006, McCain's wife Cindy earned $6 million, and has a net worth of approximately $100 million. If anyone in America doesn’t need $1,900 a month – it is John McCain.

For someone who claims to be so AGAINST the social security system, he sure didn’t miss a heartbeat to sign up and get his money.

If the system is so broken, why make it worse by participating? It is not mandatory that he collect the money.
I'm with you here. I also don't think he should be pulling SS money away from those who really need it, but that is the system we have. Is there a way to opt out?
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Well, the good professor deleted his whiny post before I could quote it and educate him... so this is for all the other McCain apologists:

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Republican presidential candidate John McCain cashes his monthly Social Security checks despite calling the federal program "a disgrace," the Associated Press reports.

"I'm receiving benefits," McCain told campaign reporters, but added, "the system is broken."

In 2007, he received benefits of $23,157 from Social Security, approximately $1,930 a month. The maximum monthly benefit under Social Security is $2,185. Social Security benefits are determined by age at retirement.

McCain, who is 71, has received benefits since he was 65.

Last week, McCain told observers at a town-hall meeting in Portsmouth, Ohio, "Americans have got to understand that we are paying present-day retirees with the taxes paid by young workers ... and that's a disgrace."

B.J. Jarrett from the Social Security Administration said that individuals can refuse retirement benefits.

In 2006, McCain's wife Cindy earned $6 million, and has a net worth of approximately $100 million.
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McCain, who is 71, has received benefits since he was 65.

In 2007, he received benefits of $23,157 from Social Security, approximately $1,930 a month. The maximum monthly benefit under Social Security is $2,185. Social Security benefits are determined by age at retirement.

So McCain is entitled to collect is old age benefits - he's of the right age.

But is that right?

Should be receiving social security for retirement when he's not even retired?

The Social Security he receives is in addition to his current salary as a U.S. Senator that is in the range of $180,000 plus and does not including his Senatorial pensions.

In 2006, McCain's wife Cindy earned $6 million, and has a net worth of approximately $100 million. If anyone in America doesn’t need $1,900 a month – it is John McCain.

For someone who claims to be so AGAINST the social security system, he sure didn’t miss a heartbeat to sign up and get his money.

If the system is so broken, why make it worse by participating? It is not mandatory that he collect the money.
Just so you can see things in perspective:

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Hillary for President- NOT!

Just yesterday I saw her on the senate floor speaking against the high salaries of company CEO's.....

Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York State Senator, now comes under this fancy "Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan," which means that even if she never gets reelected, she STILL receives her Congressional salary until she dies.

If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is already getting his Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that? WE DO!

It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York.

Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense.

Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at around $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the acreage to house the Secret Service agents.

The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of that extra residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton's salary, mortgage, transportation, safety and security, as well as the salaries for their 12 man staff - and this is all perfectly legal!

When she runs for President, will you vote for her?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/pensions.asp
Kinda makes that $1900 a month look small huh? Chew on this one Glinda!
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