According to just released Gallup poll Kerry won the last debate 45% - 30%

Kerry is also ahead in the race by 1 point: Kerry 49% - Bush 48%
Kerry's leading by 2 points Kerry 50% - Bush 48% without Nader.

Bush's job approval 47% with 49% disapproving

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...todaypolls.htm

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The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself. George W. Bush

Their words, a virtual tie.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/content/login.aspx?ci=13549

They still have the old poll taken immediately after the debate, the poll I posted was taken yesterday. People now believe that Kerry won the debate 45% - 30%

Open my link, the debate question is at the very end of the article (questin #30).

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The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself. George W. Bush

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To me all that means is they changed their mind once they listened to others tell them what to think.

I believe back when Gallop favored Bush....Ken told me it wasn't that reliable and touted a different poll that favored Kerry. I guess he's changed his mind again. Kind of reminds me of Kerry.

You can believe what you want. But I think most people saw a totally different Bush at this last debate. The expectations of the debates are that KERRY should win them. He's the master-debater, as someone else said. He was on a debate team in college and he's spent 20 years in the Senate doing NOTHING BUT debating. Whenever he showed up, that is. So, you might say DEBATING has been John Kerry's full-time job for some 20 years.

So, these debates....in and of themselves....are not going to determine who wins. They just aren't. Kerry's record is becomming more and more of an issue....and just at the right time. And he cannot defend it.

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Zogby's poll also shows that on the economy, jobs, fighting the war on terror & many other social issues, that Bush beats Kerry in a landslide. I took that poll. I found it odd that some of the questions said "no data available." Huh? Those questions might make Kerry look really bad.

I think there are many people who aren't too pleased with either candidate, some will vote for Bush because they know he proved that in any crisis he would do a better job than Kerry. I think the undecideds are turned off by all the negativity but I also think in the end Bush will win.

BTW, Kerry again pulls another flip flop. While he SAYS that he will stop outsourcing do people know that Heinz outsourced 72% of the jobs that use to be based here???? His answer was "I told my handlers that was a bit too much." Again, will you believe a Bs'er or someone who will be honest with you even if you don't like the answers he gives? That's my point.

BUSH/CHENEY 2004!

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on how you view a winner. If you view style and presentation (which many people do) then Kerry wins and would likely win 99% of the time. However, if you base it on the issues in terms of whether the answers given (whether you agree or not) were presented in a clear manner and in a way that makes your views more favorable then that is a different story. Kerry won it both ways the first time, but Bush won on content the second. One look no further than polls which show that on issues of security, Iraq, leadership, clarity etc etc people feel as strongly (and in some cases more so) now than before the debates. That really tells you who won the debates.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/News/story?id=156485

And for the record, independents felt Cheney won the Edwards debate.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...=140951&page=1

You mean this Zogby poll:

Kerry 47%, Bush 44%, Nader 2%

Democratic challenger John Kerry expanded his slight lead over President Bush to three points in a tight race for the White House, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Monday.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=6465847

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The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself. George W. Bush

And that is the one in November.

But as was shown so dramatically, the electoral vote is what is important, not the popular vote. As of right now, Monday night, the site http://www.electoral-vote.com/ has the race:

Kerry: 280
Bush: 254

I'm not counting my chickens yet. It is not a done deal in any way shape or form. But I do like the fact that all the Republicans that were gloating so bad and who BTW originally pointed me to this site are now all of a sudden discounting all the polls going against them, that they gleefully posted before.