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Old 09-23-2008, 10:15 AM
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Default Obama scales back 50-state effort

He's still trying to expand the map, but the reality of limited resources is starting to affect the effort:
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But now, as voter registration winds down in the next two weeks and the impact of John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin becomes clearer, the Obama campaign has apparently scaled back its outsized electoral ambitions. It is already shifting staff abandoning some states, and putting others on notice. If they once technically played in all 50, they're now down to 48 — you can cross Alaska and North Dakota off the list and two other states, Montana and Georgia, are on life support.
The 50-state campaign has always been ambitious, and remains a valid long-term effort. But pouring money into states that refuse to shift out of McCain's column doesn't work as a short-term election strategy.

Let's also note that the four states involved have a grand total of 24 electoral votes, and Bush won them all in 2004. Obama is still playing offense; it's just not a full-court press anymore.

I'm waiting to see an analysis that examines whether the effort forced the Republicans to spend money in states they wouldn't have otherwise, as that was one key premise of the effort. The other was helping local Democratic candidates by increasing Democratic turnout, and over the long term establishing a presence and voter-registration operation that could eventually turn the states blue or at least purple.
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I thought he was on record saying '57 State' effort? Oh well, my bad.
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I think both campaigns will start to really pinpoint where their money needs to go at this point. I don't see it as any big deal. They both have close to the same amount of money left.
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I'm waiting to see an analysis that examines whether the effort forced the Republicans to spend money in states they wouldn't have otherwise, as that was one key premise of the effort. The other was helping local Democratic candidates by increasing Democratic turnout, and over the long term establishing a presence and voter-registration operation that could eventually turn the states blue or at least purple.
If you looked for that analysis and couldn't find it, then chances are it simply didn't happen. Regardless of your perceptions and opinions of Republicans, they are not stupid or wasteful when it comes to elections. They know the attacks that will work and the messages that will resonate. They appeal to people emotions and simplicity because they understand human nature. People are not naturally rational or intellectual, that is why emotional and simplistic messages will resonate. Also, regardless of the shifts in registered democrats and registered republicans from year to year, the percentage of people who identify themselves as at least somewhat conservative remains consistantly close to 60% and those that identify themselves as at least somwhat liberal is below 40%. That is the fundamental reason why lunatic liberal democrats like Obama usually do poorly.
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I think both campaigns will start to really pinpoint where their money needs to go at this point. I don't see it as any big deal. They both have close to the same amount of money left.
I heard the ND staff was sent to WI and MN, two states that I would peg to be prime Bradley Effect losses for Obama.
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I don't see the point of a candidate using resources in states that are firmly in the camp of the opponent. Why should Obama campaign in Wyoming, one of the reddest states? And why should McCain campaign in Vermont, one of the bluest states?

There are battleground states to be won over.
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I thought he was on record saying '57 State' effort? Oh well, my bad.
50 states , 6 US territories, DC.
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50 states , 6 US territories, DC.
Yeah... keep making excuses for the poor dolt...
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50 states , 6 US territories, DC.
What about Alaska and Hawaii?
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What about Alaska and Hawaii?
That would be part of the 50....

Of course, I think Obama simply slipped up; I don't think he was counting DC and the territories.
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