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CNN reported this. CNN!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/23/biden.earmarks/
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That's nice. I don't recall either of them saying they "killed" the Bridge to Nowhere. Palin says it all the time, even though she was for it until after Congress said "no." She even built a ROAD to Nowhere with taxpayer money.

Has Biden ever said he "killed" the plan? Has Obama? No? How odd that you would get all aroused by this bit of fluff.

Also, 82 Senators made the same choice as Obama and Biden. You forgot to mention that part.
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Yes - I saw that- was rather proud of them for that.
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Yes - I saw that- was rather proud of them for that.
So. Obama, Biden, and 80 other senators voted against the amendment.

McCain SKIPPED the vote -- on the amendment and the final bill -- which passed 93-1.

Too busy, I guess.

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And never mind that the issue in question wasn't "Do I support the bridge to nowhere" but a more basic "Should a particular earmark be taken from one state and given to another." Whatever you think of the earmark system, that wouldn't be a fair way to operate.

Every one of those senators was thinking, "What if it was my state instead of Alaska that was being stripped of $325 million?"
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Yeah, that was quite interesting last night. And on CNN, no less. Looks like they are trying to become more "fair and balanced."
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Yeah....the first time they "voted for it," it was an earmark attached to a multi-million dollar transportation bill that was to send federal money to lots of places to help rebuild roads and bridges. The second time has already been covered in this thread.

CNN did a poor job reporting that information.
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And never mind that the issue in question wasn't "Do I support the bridge to nowhere" but a more basic "Should a particular earmark be taken from one state and given to another." Whatever you think of the earmark system, that wouldn't be a fair way to operate.
Right. And neither is turning around and condemning the Governor of that state for spending it when it was awarded to them.

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Every one of those senators was thinking, "What if it was my state instead of Alaska that was being stripped of $325 million?"
Exactly. ALL states get money from the federal gov't for infrastructure---highways, roads, bridges. Palin simply believed that designating $400 million for that bridge to nowhere was a bit much. She took the money they DID award her state, to spend in any way the taxpayers of Alaska saw fit..... and built a much cheaper gravel road that gets them to and from. It's called being fiscally responsible with the taxpayer money.

As this article and thread says----Biden has asked for about 160+ earmarks this year. He has bridges funded by the federal gov't as well. So, he really shouldn't be making fun of Alaska or Gov. Palin. And that's the point.
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Yeah....the first time they "voted for it," it was an earmark attached to a multi-million dollar transportation bill that was to send federal money to lots of places to help rebuild roads and bridges. The second time has already been covered in this thread.

CNN did a poor job reporting that information.
CNN and John Anderson simply pointed out what a two-faced hypocrite Biden is.
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Right. And neither is turning around and condemning the Governor of that state for spending it when it was awarded to them.
And once again, that statement is a deflection and a distortion.

She is being criticized because she, herself, unprompted, pointed to the Bridge to Nowhere as an example of her ethics and reformist spirit. She said she told Congress "thanks but no Thanks" for it, and said "if Alaska wants a bridge, we'll build it ourselves."

When what she actually did was defend the bridge long past the point where Congress had withdrawn the earmark for it, and then canceled the bridge project because the federal candy didn't cover the whole thing, so Alaska actually *would* have had to help build it themselves.

I pointed all of this out in an earlier thread that you and Spare abruptly abandoned after I did so:
PALIN: "OK, I Didn't Exactly SAY What I SAID I Said..."

So she's being hammered for being a liar.

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Palin simply believed that designating $400 million for that bridge to nowhere was a bit much.
Um, no. Her actual, stated objection was that there wasn't *enough* federal money to build the whole thing, and she didn't want to spend state money on it.

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She took the money they DID award her state, to spend in any way the taxpayers of Alaska saw fit..... and built a much cheaper gravel road that gets them to and from.
Um, the road doesn't go anywhere. It leads to the spot where the bridge would have been -- and stops.

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Can I use this as the official Republican definition of "fiscally responsible"?

You're post did not contain a single factually correct statement about the bridge or Palin's positions on it.
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