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Old 10-15-2004, 09:18 PM
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Bush has conceded Pennsylvania whether you like it or not
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Pennsylvania was not on a list of the President's top 10 advertising targets last month.
The CNN link I provided earlier shows there was plenty of money spent by Bush in Penn. lately. You seem to be misinformed.
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Come on Ken. The CNN link disputes your claims. What do you have to say?
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I don't believe Bush is conceding PA at all. It should be a easy win for Kerry but it is very close. You can tell the Kerry campaign is really having to fight for PA when they send their biggest man in their to help win. Now that Bill Clinton has recovered from surgery they have to send in the democrat's god to help win PA. It seems to me that they would not have to do this if they were winning PA, if they were Clinton would be going to Ohio.
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:11 AM
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Well Bush visited Penn yesterday and will again today. He sure has a strange way of conceding a state.

How do we score this? Is this thread a 'loss' for Ken? Who is keeping the score anyway?
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:26 AM
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Well Bush visited Penn yesterday and will again today. He sure has a strange way of conceding a state.

How do we score this? Is this thread a 'loss' for Ken? Who is keeping the score anyway?
A visit to a state is not the same as seriously campaigning in a state. Bush made a visit to NJ a week ago. His chances of winning NJ were then and are now significantly below zero. Four years ago at about this time Bush was campaigning in CA.


Poll: Kerry Widens Lead Over Bush In Pa.
Among 841 likely voters surveyed by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, including voters who have made up their minds and those who said they were leaning toward one candidate, the poll found 51 percent backed Kerry and 46 percent favored Bush. Four percent were undecided.
http://www.nbc10.com/politics/3841670/detail.html

51% for a challenger? in a presidential election? with 100s of thousands of new voters registered? with ACT doing GOTV? Forget about it.

Kerry is running victory ads in PA. These are the ads where Kerry speaks to a crowd about tax breaks for outsourcing and they applaud. Reagan ran these type ads in several states in 1984 (Michigan comes to mind) and Clinton ran these about a dozen states in 1996. The ads are designed to keep the base pumped while lowering the overall ad buy in those states. The ad is usually a sign the candidate is operating outside the margin or error.

PS Having said all that I'd be happy to be mistaken and see Bush wastes more time and money in PA (and NJ for that matter).
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Jeez doesn't that stuff make you dizzy sooner or later?

Last week Bush spent 2.5 million on ads in Penn. Kerry spent 2.4 million. Your original contention last week was that Bush had conceded the state. Clearly that is not the case.
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"Last week Bush spent 2.5 million on ads in Penn. Kerry spent 2.4 million. Your original contention last week was that Bush had conceded the state. Clearly that is not the case"

Cmon!! get with the program... you and I both know that when a liberal is pinned down on one of their lies that they changed the subject enough to deflect the blame..

Because it's a variation of "change the subject" it get's it's own number....

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Jeez doesn't that stuff make you dizzy sooner or later?

Last week Bush spent 2.5 million on ads in Penn. Kerry spent 2.4 million. Your original contention last week was that Bush had conceded the state. Clearly that is not the case.
Got source or should I take your word for it? I mean, republicans never lie, right?
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Jeez doesn't that stuff make you dizzy sooner or later?

Last week Bush spent 2.5 million on ads in Penn. Kerry spent 2.4 million. Your original contention last week was that Bush had conceded the state. Clearly that is not the case.
Got source or should I take your word for it? I mean, republicans never lie, right?
The same CNN link I provided earlier in this thread.
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So much for Ken's theory: Pres. Bush is in Pennsylvania AGAIN just this morning....Friday, October 22, 2004.
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The same CNN link I provided earlier in this thread.
The link you provided is 10 days old. Then again if Bush keeps spending money in PA it's fine with me.

Bush Kerry
46.0% 51.0% Quinnipiac University October 20
46.0% 47.0% Strategic Vision ($, GOP) October 19 (Republican pollster)
46.2% 51.9% Zogby ($) October 18
45.0% 46.0% Mason-Dixon October 18
45.0% 49.0% Rasmussen ($) October 17
45.0% 51.0% Survey USA October 17
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